2238C -Does anyone know the difference between the black and color developer units?

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  • the tenor man
    Technician
    • Oct 2007
    • 24

    #1

    2238C -Does anyone know the difference between the black and color developer units?

    I can't see any difference in the units other than the plastic color on the end. The wiring appears to be the same.

    I have to assume it is the density sensor that the wiring goes to.

    Are these developer units interchangeable with any modification?

    Thanks,

    The Tenor Man
  • cwilson
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Jun 2012
    • 50

    #2
    Re: 2238C -Does anyone know the difference between the black and color developer unit

    Those Development units are not interchangeable...if you notice when you look at the parts manual, they all have different part numbers. They come with developer already in the dev unit.
    But I cleaned the scan glass.......

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    • Dence
      Junior Member
      • May 2013
      • 4

      #3
      Re: 2238C -Does anyone know the difference between the black and color developer unit

      Originally posted by cwilson
      Those Development units are not interchangeable...if you notice when you look at the parts manual, they all have different part numbers. They come with developer already in the dev unit.
      I know it's an older topic, but I have something to ask in the same order:

      What are the differences besides the color of the developer filling it?

      What I mean by this is, black is the most dominant color, so if I am at a customer with a defect black development unit but I am out of new ones:
      Is it technicaly possible, if I have a used but ok functioning yellow development unit wich I vaccuumd and cleanend thoroughly (Black is dominant over yellow), to fill it with new black developer (the same standard procedure for changing just the developer as usual) and join this one with a black PCU (or collored one with a modified RJ45 socket or connector)? Will it work?

      Last edited by Dence; 09-19-2013, 03:27 PM.

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      • rthonpm
        Field Supervisor

        2,500+ Posts
        • Aug 2007
        • 2847

        #4
        Re: 2238C -Does anyone know the difference between the black and color developer unit

        NO!
        Don't even try it or even think about swapping the developer out, all you're asking for is more problems. Doing anything beyond ordering a new developer unit is just going to be making more work for yourself, and possibly buggering up the machine. Also, if memory serves the front panels for each unit are keyed to match up with the stabilising bar that keeps them in place.

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        • Llama God
          Service Manager

          1,000+ Posts
          • Mar 2009
          • 1353

          #5
          Re: 2238C -Does anyone know the difference between the black and color developer unit

          Dear oh dear oh dear...

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          • Eric1968
            Service Manager

            1,000+ Posts
            • Jan 2009
            • 2458

            #6
            Re: 2238C -Does anyone know the difference between the black and color developer unit

            Originally posted by Dence
            I know it's an older topic, but I have something to ask in the same order:

            What are the differences besides the color of the developer filling it?

            What I mean by this is, black is the most dominant color, so if I am at a customer with a defect black development unit but I am out of new ones:
            Is it technicaly possible, if I have a used but ok functioning yellow development unit wich I vaccuumd and cleanend thoroughly (Black is dominant over yellow), to fill it with new black developer (the same standard procedure for changing just the developer as usual) and join this one with a black PCU (or collored one with a modified RJ45 socket or connector)? Will it work?

            In the dutch language :

            Gewoon NIET doen. Bestel een een zwarte Development Unit en ga geen CMY-Developer Unit uitzuigen en er zwarte toner/developer in proberen te gooien. Dit is echt vragen om problemen, zoals je misschien wel zien aan de reacties.

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            • Llama God
              Service Manager

              1,000+ Posts
              • Mar 2009
              • 1353

              #7
              Re: 2238C -Does anyone know the difference between the black and color developer unit

              Originally posted by Eric1968
              In the dutch language :

              Gewoon NIET doen. Bestel een een zwarte Development Unit en ga geen CMY-Developer Unit uitzuigen en er zwarte toner/developer in proberen te gooien. Dit is echt vragen om problemen, zoals je misschien wel zien aan de reacties.

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              • slimslob
                Retired

                Site Contributor
                25,000+ Posts
                • May 2013
                • 36796

                #8
                Re: 2238C -Does anyone know the difference between the black and color developer unit

                Originally posted by Dence
                I know it's an older topic, but I have something to ask in the same order:

                What are the differences besides the color of the developer filling it?

                What I mean by this is, black is the most dominant color, so if I am at a customer with a defect black development unit but I am out of new ones:
                Is it technicaly possible, if I have a used but ok functioning yellow development unit wich I vaccuumd and cleanend thoroughly (Black is dominant over yellow), to fill it with new black developer (the same standard procedure for changing just the developer as usual) and join this one with a black PCU (or collored one with a modified RJ45 socket or connector)? Will it work?

                Are you talking about the Aficio 2238c product code D149? You mention joining the developmwent unit to a PCU. On a 2238c, the development unit and PCU mount to the machine separately. Also where do you plan to get the developer. Unlike the MP c3000, the developer on the 2238c is not replaceable. The only problem I have had with a 2238c development unit is to have gears strip. I guess if that happened you could pull a gear off a color development unit.

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                • CableGuy
                  Impulse Drive Engineer

                  250+ Posts
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 417

                  #9
                  Re: 2238C -Does anyone know the difference between the black and color developer unit

                  Hmmmm.... I think I've just stepped into.... The Twilight Zone

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                  • Jomama46
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                    • Apr 2008
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                    #10
                    Re: 2238C -Does anyone know the difference between the black and color developer unit

                    Originally posted by Eric1968
                    In the dutch language :

                    Gewoon NIET doen. Bestel een een zwarte Development Unit en ga geen CMY-Developer Unit uitzuigen en er zwarte toner/developer in proberen te gooien. Dit is echt vragen om problemen, zoals je misschien wel zien aan de reacties.
                    and in Africaans.
                    Gewoon NIE doen. Bestel 'n 'n swart Development Unit en ga geen CMY-Developer Unit uitsuig en daar is swart toner / developer in probeer te gooi. Dit is regtig vra om probleme, soos jy miskien wel sien aan die kommentaar.
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                    You never realize how cheap a professional is until after you let an amateur do it.
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                    • Jomama46
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                      • Apr 2008
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                      #11
                      Re: 2238C -Does anyone know the difference between the black and color developer unit

                      Originally posted by Llama God
                      Dear oh dear oh dear...
                      Now look what you've done, you've upset Chris.
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                      • Llama God
                        Service Manager

                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 1353

                        #12
                        Re: 2238C -Does anyone know the difference between the black and color developer unit

                        Originally posted by Jomama46
                        Now look what you've done, you've upset Chris.
                        Who are these people?

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                        • Jomama46
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                          • Apr 2008
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                          #13
                          Re: 2238C -Does anyone know the difference between the black and color developer unit

                          And where an I?
                          Barkeep, drinks on Chris, (hurry before he comes to)
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                          • CableGuy
                            Impulse Drive Engineer

                            250+ Posts
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 417

                            #14
                            Re: 2238C -Does anyone know the difference between the black and color developer unit

                            Originally posted by Jomama46
                            and in Africaans.
                            Gewoon NIE doen. Bestel 'n 'n swart Development Unit en ga geen CMY-Developer Unit uitsuig en daar is swart toner / developer in probeer te gooi. Dit is regtig vra om probleme, soos jy miskien wel sien aan die kommentaar.
                            Ek het lank laas Afrikaans gepraat, en dit maak geen sin lol

                            I'm rusty with the language after being out of the country for a while

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                            • Polarbear
                              Service Manager

                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 1070

                              #15
                              Re: 2238C -Does anyone know the difference between the black and color developer unit

                              Originally posted by Jomama46
                              and in Africaans.
                              Gewoon NIE doen. Bestel 'n 'n swart Development Unit en ga geen CMY-Developer Unit uitsuig en daar is swart toner / developer in probeer te gooi. Dit is regtig vra om probleme, soos jy miskien wel sien aan die kommentaar.
                              Daai is Google Translate se Afrikaans!

                              Wat jy wou se is:

                              NEE!
                              Moet dit nie probeer of eens daaraan dink om die developer uit te ruil nie! Al wat jy doen is vra vir meer probleme! Jy gaan meer werk vir jouself maak as jy enigiets probeer behalwe om n ander development eenheid te bestel, en boonop gaan jy die masjien ook beskadig. Sover ek kan onthou is die voorkante van die eenhede ook so gemaak dat hulle nie in die verkeerde area sal pas nie omdat daar n patroon op die voorkant is wat pas by die stabiliseringspen wat dit in plek hou.

                              Press the GREEN button!!

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