Lanier MP C4503 SOP/Java help requested

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    Lanier MP C4503 SOP/Java help requested

    I have 2 MP C4503 copiers that were our first attempt at installing smart panels on. I didn't install the panels on the first 2 (problem machines), but I did install one (our third) successfully, but I was aided by the information found from the first two installed.

    One of the machines we have in the shop, the other is in the field. I didn't do the work to the first two installs, so I am not sure exactly what was done to them, but this is my understanding of the what went wrong. The Java on the machine needs to be v1.13 or higher for the smart panels to operate properly, and the level of firmware on these machines was at 1.11 when the smart panels were installed. They sent a tech to repair issues in the field that was seeing the new panels for the first time. I guess he figured out that the Java wasn't proper, and tried to downgrade the copiers back to the original op panels, to update the Java, and then re-install the SOP back onto the machines.

    When I run a sp 5990-024 on the one machine I have the smart panel successfully installed on, it shows the current level of Java is 1.14, which is proper, and the most current version as far as I know. However when I run the SP 5990-024 on the two problem machines it only shows an extended version of Java, but the main Java doesn't appear on the page. When I looked at extended features in user tools, it shows "searching" and FM (flash media) is the location it shows it is searching for.

    The machine I have at the shop had the smart panel, but I have downgraded back to the original op panel, I have set all the SPs back to original, and have downgraded the firmware back to it's original (most current) configuration. This machine still behaves the same as the one still in the field with the SOP. I tried to install the Java via the sdk folder from the SD card, but when the try the panel reports "starting firmware upgrade" but never goes any further.

    I'm not at the machines now, and as I said I'm not sure what was done to the two problem machines, but as I reflect back it seems the machine that I successfully installed, had a Java card in the top slot, and the ones with the problem have a browser type f card installed in the top slot. I do know there have been all sorts of hands over those machines as they had the IT dept install features as well as the service department.

    If someone could please help me recover the Java on these machines it would be appreciated.

    Thanks in advance,

    Marc
  • Tonerbomb
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    Re: Lanier MP C4503 SOP/Java help requested

    For 1 the java version should be 11.14, and java is resident on the machine and not a sd card. The way to upgrade is as you described via firmware update.There is rfu firmware available for remote update. You can try that. I had 2 machines that gave random sc990's with java 11.11, found out from ricoh about the java issue.I did have to use remote firmware on 1 of them. You won't be able to run extended feature until Ricoh releases the iSDK version of java for the SOP machines anyway. When you install the SOP, follow the procedure in the manual step by step and make sure you have the RIGHT firmware for the panel your installing or you may hose the machine......
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    • tjvincent
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      Re: Lanier MP C4503 SOP/Java help requested

      Thanks for the info, I also have a couple of machines (4503's) popping SC990's on occassion, I have not updated Java, with the Smart op panel installed can i just update the Java? I dont have to revert back to old firmware then update Java, do I ?

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      • Tonerbomb
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        Re: Lanier MP C4503 SOP/Java help requested

        Just update the java solo...................... Leave the sop and the sop firmware on the machine...... I've had no more issues with the 3 machines I had problems with !!!
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        • tjvincent
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          Re: Lanier MP C4503 SOP/Java help requested

          According to the SOP update bulletin there is supposed to be different Java firmware for the smart panel, is that correct, if so what procedure did you use to update? The verupTool_111402_FM?

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          • Tonerbomb
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            Re: Lanier MP C4503 SOP/Java help requested

            Originally posted by tjvincent
            According to the SOP update bulletin there is supposed to be different Java firmware for the smart panel, is that correct, if so what procedure did you use to update? The verupTool_111402_FM?
            The one I used was named veruptool_111302xxx. It actually updated to version 11.14.02. That's what you need!
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              Re: Lanier MP C4503 SOP/Java help requested

              Sorry for the delayed reply, we got swamped. It WAS 11.14, not 1.14, I typed the first message late and I was fried, the sdk updated properly, and it seems that all the issues with the SOP were solved.


              Thanks for all the help, and again sorry for not thanking you properly earlier.

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              • garryayling
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                • Jan 2011
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                Re: Lanier MP C4503 SOP/Java help requested

                Hello just need some info. Ive never had to do java before on the 03 range. Was just wondering if u was able to give me a step by step instructions on how to do as this range has no sd card to install on. just need to no what files and format I need and where to do it. Ive downloaded the java but cant seem to figure how to do it...

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