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  • rhansson
    Technician
    • Apr 2014
    • 13

    #1

    [Misc] Carbon copy printing

    Am i able to perform carbon copy printing with a Ricoh SP 4210n. Have two trays. if so which driver is required.
  • Tonerbomb
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    • Feb 2005
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    #2
    Re: Carbon copy printing

    newbie, please explain what you are trying to do so the consortium understands. Then we can help you get this done......
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    • rhansson
      Technician
      • Apr 2014
      • 13

      #3
      Re: Carbon copy printing

      Originally posted by Tonerbomb
      newbie, please explain what you are trying to do so the consortium understands. Then we can help you get this done......
      i have a customer that wishes to print 2 of the same pages but on different coloured pages, thus they would then print from tray 1 (white paper) and tray 2 (lets say yellow paper) with the same information on each page. Hence the name carbon copy/ printing.

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      • slimslob
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        • May 2013
        • 37419

        #4
        Re: Carbon copy printing

        To me, this would be something to setup in the software. For most word processing and publishing software, make a two page document with both pages the same. In the page setup, have page one print from tray one and page two print from tray 2.

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        • ruben
          The New Guy

          1,000+ Posts
          • Oct 2012
          • 1203

          #5
          Re: Carbon copy printing

          Install either the PCL 5 or PCL 6 drivers, in these you can use Paper Selection. If you use PCL 5 and select 2 copies, you can then use User Defined. With User Defined, set your white paper tray for page 1 and your yellow paper tray for page 2 (even though the document only has one page, the second copy is considered the second page).

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          • Moza
            Service Manager

            100+ Posts
            • Feb 2009
            • 232

            #6
            Re: Carbon copy printing

            Originally posted by ruben
            Install either the PCL 5 or PCL 6 drivers, in these you can use Paper Selection. If you use PCL 5 and select 2 copies, you can then use User Defined. With User Defined, set your white paper tray for page 1 and your yellow paper tray for page 2 (even though the document only has one page, the second copy is considered the second page).

            I don't think this will work, as far as I'm aware it will only send it down as a single job printing both pages from the same tray. I had a similar issue when a customer wanted to print two copies of a single page document on different trays then staple which by all accounts isn't possible either.

            Would be good if you new different Ruben ?

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            • ruben
              The New Guy

              1,000+ Posts
              • Oct 2012
              • 1203

              #7
              Re: Carbon copy printing

              I've tested this on a MPC400 at a customers once, and it seemed to work, I will re-test just in case.

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              • rhansson
                Technician
                • Apr 2014
                • 13

                #8
                Re: Carbon copy printing

                Originally posted by ruben
                Install either the PCL 5 or PCL 6 drivers, in these you can use Paper Selection. If you use PCL 5 and select 2 copies, you can then use User Defined. With User Defined, set your white paper tray for page 1 and your yellow paper tray for page 2 (even though the document only has one page, the second copy is considered the second page).
                have tried as you suggested, but can still only get it to print from tray 1. unless you have to not only select User defined?

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                • Iowatech
                  Not a service manager

                  2,500+ Posts
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 3930

                  #9
                  Re: Carbon copy printing

                  An off the wall thing, sorry if this is stupid.
                  Still, do you want to create carbonless forms? As in the ones where you sign the white sheet and the signature appears in the correct space on the yellow sheet? For that you have to buy the carbonless paper that already has the paper stacked properly. The machine should be able to handle making carbonless forms then (you might have to set the paper tray for light weight paper and you will have to glue the sheets together though).

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                  • rhansson
                    Technician
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 13

                    #10
                    Re: Carbon copy printing

                    Originally posted by Iowatech
                    An off the wall thing, sorry if this is stupid.
                    Still, do you want to create carbonless forms? As in the ones where you sign the white sheet and the signature appears in the correct space on the yellow sheet? For that you have to buy the carbonless paper that already has the paper stacked properly. The machine should be able to handle making carbonless forms then (you might have to set the paper tray for light weight paper and you will have to glue the sheets together though).
                    if you look at most new brother printers, now it is an option in the print driver. but it seem to not be available for Ricoh printers. And no sorry it is not Carbon paper the customer is after.

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                    • sandmanmac
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                      • Feb 2009
                      • 3980

                      #11
                      Re: Carbon copy printing

                      I have a couple of customers that simply use "coloured collated laser paper".
                      You can get it in 2 - 5 different colours. It's a pretty convenient solution, and only requires using 1 paper tray.
                      For Example: Colored Laser Paper - Collated, Multi-part Invoice Paper

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                      • slimslob
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                        • May 2013
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                        #12
                        Re: Carbon copy printing

                        Originally posted by rhansson
                        if you look at most new brother printers, now it is an option in the print driver. but it seem to not be available for Ricoh printers. And no sorry it is not Carbon paper the customer is after.
                        Originally posted by sandmanmac
                        I have a couple of customers that simply use "coloured collated laser paper".
                        You can get it in 2 - 5 different colours. It's a pretty convenient solution, and only requires using 1 paper tray.
                        For Example: Colored Laser Paper - Collated, Multi-part Invoice Paper
                        Ricoh officially recommends the use of carbonless NCR paper only in selected Productions models such as the Pro 907/1107/1357. Even then, if the customer does a high percentage of carbonless NCR, the chemicals used in carbonless NCR paper can cause roller and other parts to deteriorate faster. I have a couple of schools who use it but only about 1 percent of their total.

                        I think sandmanmac's suggestion is exactly what you need.

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                        • rhansson
                          Technician
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 13

                          #13
                          Re: Carbon copy printing

                          Originally posted by sandmanmac
                          I have a couple of customers that simply use "coloured collated laser paper".
                          You can get it in 2 - 5 different colours. It's a pretty convenient solution, and only requires using 1 paper tray.
                          For Example: Colored Laser Paper - Collated, Multi-part Invoice Paper
                          Good idea, yet not cost effective. But thanks any way.

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                          • KenB
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                            • Dec 2007
                            • 3944

                            #14
                            Re: Carbon copy printing

                            I've heard no mention if what application(s) you are printing from.

                            If it's MS Word, it would be fairly simple to write a macro within Word to get the desired results.

                            It should also be possible to write a VB script for other apps (like Acrobat or Reader.)

                            i would expect that there is a ton of very inexpensive (and expensive) software that would do this, as well.
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                            • rhansson
                              Technician
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 13

                              #15
                              Re: Carbon copy printing

                              Originally posted by KenB
                              I've heard no mention if what application(s) you are printing from.

                              If it's MS Word, it would be fairly simple to write a macro within Word to get the desired results.

                              It should also be possible to write a VB script for other apps (like Acrobat or Reader.)

                              i would expect that there is a ton of very inexpensive (and expensive) software that would do this, as well.
                              The customer is using a program called Clear Enterprise, if that helps. As i am not able to write script or macros that option is not happening for me, cheers.

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