MP C305 creasing

[Debs1964]

Just for your info, yesterday I went to an MPC305 that was creasing, the crease was in the feed direction, pretty much in the centre of the paper, sometimes about an inch long, other times 4-5" and never extended to the lead or trail edge, and there was no branching of the crease, it was almost straight. The more unusual thing though was that it pretty much only happened on printing, I ran over 50 copies/internal prints before I got one out with a small crease, however, when printing from a PC it creased over 50% of the time. I checked all the usual things that cause creasing, the machine has only done 19K, and I didn't really think it could be anything mechanical as it would crease on copies too, I upgraded the firmware to rule it out, no creasing after that, I called her back this afternoon, and it hasn't creased at all since then. Who'd have thought that firmware would cure creasing!

[JonManchester]

Re: MP C305 creasing

I've Seen firmware cure some odd things, but this is a new one for me.

[Athlontini]

Re: MP C305 creasing

Never underestimate engine firmware. It helped out with the MPC4502/5502 fusing belts failing all the time, and on the MPCxx01 series I used to get calls for jams in the registration - that happened only during print jobs. No amount of copies would cause this jam (J017 I think it was) but at one client they left the paper jammed for me with the print job still in the queue. I removed the paper, closed the right door, and watched it jam right away again. I wish I knew what actually, physically caused this, but for now it's enough for me to know what will fix it.

[banginbishop]

Re: MP C305 creasing

These things are causing no end of problems. Have you looked at the firmware available about 25 different ones😁 bloody minefield and time consuming. Had a fresh install giving an error code sc8.... Missing sd card?corrupt sd? Runs without an sd card so who knows?- rant over

[ewizzy]

Re: MP C305 creasing

I quite like a challenging machine.

I hate mpc 305s though haha!

We have had 3 replaced due to the silly laser issues (losing yellow, colour registration going out) and one replaced due to BICU dead on arrival!

Never mind, at least its not an mp4000

[Debs1964]

Re: MP C305 creasing

Never mind, at least its not an mp4000

I don't mind the MP4000, once you accept that you have to change dev every 60K it's not a bad machine, far, far better than the adonis that it superceded

[ewizzy]

Re: MP C305 creasing

I don't mind the MP4000, once you accept that you have to change dev every 60K it's not a bad machine, far, far better than the adonis that it superceded

See, I prefered the 2035, if you accept that you have to hoover it out every time you look at one lol.

Also, I'll challenge you to a fused rebuild race?... You can change the fuser and web on the mp4000, I'll change all parts in 2 x 2035 fusers. I'll put a fiver on me winning

[Debs1964]

Re: MP C305 creasing

See, I prefered the 2035, if you accept that you have to hoover it out every time you look at one lol.

Also, I'll challenge you to a fused rebuild race?... You can change the fuser and web on the mp4000, I'll change all parts in 2 x 2035 fusers. I'll put a fiver on me winning

No see, as the MP4000 has a cleaning web, the hot roller lasts AGES, so by the time the hot roll needs replacing I just stick a new fuser in (incidentally, I've changed 1 fuser in 6 years, and never changed a hot roller) I win

[Athlontini]

Re: MP C305 creasing

I don't mind the MP4000, once you accept that you have to change dev every 60K it's not a bad machine, far, far better than the adonis that it superceded

Wait, what?

If you clean the mag roller at 100k you can get close to 320k out of the developer. If it's gone past 160k without the mag roller being cleaned, I generally just replace it though.

And you're spot on about those fusers. My company is having us run them without the web units, so they're even less of a pain now!

[Debs1964]

Re: MP C305 creasing

Wait, what?

If you clean the mag roller at 100k you can get close to 320k out of the developer. If it's gone past 160k without the mag roller being cleaned, I generally just replace it though.

And you're spot on about those fusers. My company is having us run them without the web units, so they're even less of a pain now!

I find that the mag roller is coated at 60K and the machine starts giving SC304 errors, so I clean the mag roller and replace the dev, I've never seen an MP4000 get anywhere near 320K out of dev, the occasional one may make it just past 100K, but the CQ is pretty dire by then

[ewizzy]

Re: MP C305 creasing

No see, as the MP4000 has a cleaning web, the hot roller lasts AGES, so by the time the hot roll needs replacing I just stick a new fuser in (incidentally, I've changed 1 fuser in 6 years, and never changed a hot roller) I win

I conceed..... You win.......


Apart from, I told my sales people not to sell any MP4000's a few years ago as they are a huge pile of crap..... I haven't got ANY MP4000's or Afficio 2035's out in the field anymore, at all... So, by that count. I win

[Debs1964]

Re: MP C305 creasing

I conceed..... You win.......


Apart from, I told my sales people not to sell any MP4000's a few years ago as they are a huge pile of crap..... I haven't got ANY MP4000's or Afficio 2035's out in the field anymore, at all... So, by that count. I win

OK OK, I concede, you definitely win now

[qbert69]

Re: MP C305 creasing

Just for your info, yesterday I went to an MPC305 that was creasing, the crease was in the feed direction, pretty much in the centre of the paper, sometimes about an inch long, other times 4-5" and never extended to the lead or trail edge, and there was no branching of the crease, it was almost straight. The more unusual thing though was that it pretty much only happened on printing, I ran over 50 copies/internal prints before I got one out with a small crease, however, when printing from a PC it creased over 50% of the time. I checked all the usual things that cause creasing, the machine has only done 19K, and I didn't really think it could be anything mechanical as it would crease on copies too, I upgraded the firmware to rule it out, no creasing after that, I called her back this afternoon, and it hasn't creased at all since then. Who'd have thought that firmware would cure creasing!

I have seen linear creasing caused by the mylar worn out just before the registration roller. The paper will hit the registration roller unevenly at both ends and buckle/crease in the middle going the length of the page...this is just an FYI!

[diegura]

Re: MP C305 creasing

Just for your info, yesterday I went to an MPC305 that was creasing, the crease was in the feed direction, pretty much in the centre of the paper, sometimes about an inch long, other times 4-5" and never extended to the lead or trail edge, and there was no branching of the crease, it was almost straight. The more unusual thing though was that it pretty much only happened on printing, I ran over 50 copies/internal prints before I got one out with a small crease, however, when printing from a PC it creased over 50% of the time. I checked all the usual things that cause creasing, the machine has only done 19K, and I didn't really think it could be anything mechanical as it would crease on copies too, I upgraded the firmware to rule it out, no creasing after that, I called her back this afternoon, and it hasn't creased at all since then. Who'd have thought that firmware would cure creasing!