MP161 / MP171 / MP201 - Can these models scan x-rays well?

[patterson70]

I have a dental office looking to scan and archive their x-rays and they also need an all-in-one so I am wondering if this model can do a decent job. Has anyone used these models for that?

[Herrmann]

Re: MP161 / MP171 / MP201 - Can these models scan x-rays well?

I dont think, that this will work very well, because you will need a backlight to scan the the x ray films, like scanning a dia or a photo film negative.

[sandmanmac]

Re: MP161 / MP171 / MP201 - Can these models scan x-rays well?

I have a dental office looking to scan and archive their x-rays and they also need an all-in-one so I am wondering if this model can do a decent job. Has anyone used these models for that?

I have no idea about this, but I seriously doubt it, and the results will be very similar regardless of the model #.
Doesn't this fall into the category of: Try it, and see what happens?

[KenB]

Re: MP161 / MP171 / MP201 - Can these models scan x-rays well?

See if they can give you a sample, so that You can test it with various models.

That may be much easier said than done, though, with HIPPA rules being what they are.

[patterson70]

Re: MP161 / MP171 / MP201 - Can these models scan x-rays well?

Thanks, I will have to do the testing unless someone can let me know how it went when they tried.

[qbert69]

Re: MP161 / MP171 / MP201 - Can these models scan x-rays well?

An X-Ray is a transparency and you will need a backlight behind the film to scan, so the light is transmitted through the X-Ray Film to the scanner head!

From a quick search I've done, the prices range anywhere from $5k--$15k for a decent machine!

Apparently, your clients don't want to pay the price for the specialized item and want to "cheap-out"....it ain't gonna happen!

They are better off leasing a machine and hiring someone to specialize in getting the job done right!

Just my Two Cents/Pence Worth!

[TonerMunkeh]

Re: MP161 / MP171 / MP201 - Can these models scan x-rays well?

qbert is bang on, a CCD could never be expected to scan that kind of image - they'd need something like this:

Electronic Anamnesis Applications

[teebee1234]

Re: MP161 / MP171 / MP201 - Can these models scan x-rays well?

Not sure I would trust the quality of a scanned image from this device for medical diagnostics, but you might test it with leaving the lid up and placing a bright spot/flood light above it. And scan it in grayscale, not text.

[qbert69]

Re: MP161 / MP171 / MP201 - Can these models scan x-rays well?

Not sure I would trust the quality of a scanned image from this device for medical diagnostics, but you might test it with leaving the lid up and placing a bright spot/flood light above it. And scan it in grayscale, not text.

NOT GONNA WORK!!!

THE LIGHT ON THE SCANNER HEAD HAS TO BE OFF!!!

A TRANSPARENCY SCANNER TRANSMITS LIGHT THROUGH THE MEDIA BEING SCANNED TO THE SCANNER HEAD!!!

DOH!!!

THE MFP WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A LIGHT BUILT INTO THE ADF LID!!!

[SargeNZ]

Re: MP161 / MP171 / MP201 - Can these models scan x-rays well?

What about an A4 sized mirror?

[slimslob]

Re: MP161 / MP171 / MP201 - Can these models scan x-rays well?

What about an A4 sized mirror?

Not very likely. It would have to be a first surface mirror which would make it highly susceptible to scratching. They image quality, especially the grey scale and focus, would be poor due to the light having to pass through the film twice. The reflective surface of the film it self would also affect the amount of light passed to the mirror. Medical and dental x-rays need a very high degree of focus and very precise levels of grey scale. Actual x-ray scanners also have a higher resolution than the average copy machine.

[teebee1234]

Re: MP161 / MP171 / MP201 - Can these models scan x-rays well?

NOT GONNA WORK!!!

THE LIGHT ON THE SCANNER HEAD HAS TO BE OFF!!!

A TRANSPARENCY SCANNER TRANSMITS LIGHT THROUGH THE MEDIA BEING SCANNED TO THE SCANNER HEAD!!!

DOH!!!

THE MFP WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A LIGHT BUILT INTO THE ADF LID!!!

Not sure why you are yelling but DOH!!, you will get an image reflected back from the scanner lamp if you set the original settings to manual AND backlight it enough from above the original to add contrast. It's clunky and probably not worth hassling over. I've seen it done, so next time be sure of your facts so you don't come off looking foolish. And get a new keyboard, your caps lock is stuck.

[patterson70]

Re: MP161 / MP171 / MP201 - Can these models scan x-rays well?

Thanks everyone, I am going to test it out and will report back when I have an answer. It might be a while however.

[qbert69]

Re: MP161 / MP171 / MP201 - Can these models scan x-rays well?

Not sure why you are yelling but DOH!!, you will get an image reflected back from the scanner lamp if you set the original settings to manual AND backlight it enough from above the original to add contrast. It's clunky and probably not worth hassling over. I've seen it done, so next time be sure of your facts so you don't come off looking foolish. And get a new keyboard, your caps lock is stuck.

LOL!....thanks!

btw, I have had to deal with an "issue" like this.

My Dad had an old print that was a glass type negative:

History of Photography Glass plate negatives

anyway, long story short, i had to use a reflective process and a good bit of post processing to make it look good.

I suspect with the x-ray negatives that the D-Min and D-Max are going to be greatly lacking in the reflective scan process, which would in turn affect the contrast and detail that are able to be seen.

Just my 2 Cents/Pence worth!

[qbert69]

Re: MP161 / MP171 / MP201 - Can these models scan x-rays well?

Not very likely. It would have to be a first surface mirror which would make it highly susceptible to scratching. They image quality, especially the grey scale and focus, would be poor due to the light having to pass through the film twice. The reflective surface of the film it self would also affect the amount of light passed to the mirror. Medical and dental x-rays need a very high degree of focus and very precise levels of grey scale. Actual x-ray scanners also have a higher resolution than the average copy machine.

In photographic class, I made a pinhole camera out of a coffee can.

I used photographic paper for the negative AND the positive.

When I transferred/printed the positive, I laid the negative imaged paper down on top of the paper that was going to be the positive--emulsion to emulsion and exposed the light through the paper backing on the negative. By having emulsion to emulsion printing, the light diffusion was kept to a minimum and I was able to get a fairly decent print positive!

Same goes for the analog to digital process...emulsion down towards the imaging mechanism so the light is not diffused having to go through the plastic of the film.