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  • mikadonovan
    Senior Tech

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    • May 2008
    • 2931

    #1

    Pro 907 SC 495/494

    Hello, fellow techs. I'm fighting a sc 495 and sc494 on the pro 907. I have vacuumed the tubes, but I still get the code after about 200-300 prints. I am getting ready to pull the toner pump motor and check the sensor. I only have one of these beasts, so I'm a little unfamiliar with this issue on this model. Has anyone ran into this before?
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  • JonManchester
    Technician / Shop Manager

    100+ Posts
    • Aug 2013
    • 103

    #2
    Re: Pro 907 SC 495/494

    this is straight from our service ticket. SC 495 Re-acurring. Cleaned the auger and hose from the cylinder as well as cylinder & sensor. Called Tech support they said after a 495 to replace the torque limiter on toner bank/auger. (B234-3424) Also check for toner rocks we've had to bring back a couple of toner bottles that had them from that location. Those get in the tubes and cylinder and clog things up.
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    • slimslob
      Retired

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      • May 2013
      • 37059

      #3
      Re: Pro 907 SC 495/494

      From Goose's Guide for SC 494:
      Toner transport unit error - Toner supply coil defective
      Toner transport unit error - Toner supply tube defective
      Toner transport unit error - Toner supply clutch defective
      Toner transport unit error - Torque limiter defective
      Toner transport unit error - Clean coil, tubing, clutch and torque limiter
      Toner transport unit error - Replace B234 3424 Torque Limiter - 50T
      Toner transport unit error - Replace AX20 0301 Magnetic Clutch: in toner bank.
      Toner transport unit error - update the engine fw to 1.09.1:04 or higher

      For SC 495:
      Toner bottle unit error - Toner supply pump motor defective
      Toner bottle unit error - Toner end sensor in the toner supply cylinder defective
      Toner bottle unit error - Blockage in the toner supply tube
      Toner bottle unit error - Agitator in the toner supply cylinder defective
      Toner bottle unit error - Toner supply cylinder agitator motor defective
      Toner bottle unit error - Scraper in agitation cylinder not cleaning toner end sensor...
      Check toner supply motor voltage/trigger @ IOB CN 320 B2 and B5
      Toner bottle unit error - update engine fw to 1.09.2.:04 or higher
      Firmware appears to be a cause for both. Always a good place to start.

      If you need Goose's Guide: http://www.copytechnet.com/forums/ri...t=gooses+guide

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      • rsyarcia
        Hair Straightener Tech

        500+ Posts
        • Feb 2008
        • 711

        #4
        Re: Pro 907 SC 495/494

        We encountered this codes many times on this models and cleaning the toner supply(tubes,toner pump, etc.) unit solved the issue.
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        • allan
          RTFM!!

          5,000+ Posts
          • Apr 2010
          • 5463

          #5
          Re: Pro 907 SC 495/494

          There is Zillion sensors involved in that code. the dreaded SC495. Strip and clean the hopper aswell.
          Whatever

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          • Ollie1981
            Toner Monkey

            250+ Posts
            • Mar 2008
            • 418

            #6
            Re: Pro 907 SC 495/494

            One thing I've done many times in the past to fault-find this is remove the intermediate cylinder (where the stupidly long transport coil from the toner bank ends and the toner is air-pumped from to the dev unit), but leave it's harnesses connected, then put a toner/dev disposal bag in such a place to catch the toner coming out the end of the coil (and have your vac on standby and some stretch n dusts) and turn on the toner bank motor and transport clutch in output mode and make sure you can see the coil turn smoothly without binding and make sure there's a supply of toner coming up from the toner bank.

            If the coil doesn't turn at all I'd be looking at the clutch and/or torque limiter in the toner bank

            If the coil doesn't turn smoothly or appears to bind, give it a thorough vaccing out, check the coil for kinks, reassemble and try again, if it's still bad replace the coil and tube.

            If the coil turns ok but no toner is being transported up it, I'd look very carefully at the toner bank, check that the bottle chuck engages and releases properly (sometimes when they get caked up internally with toner the chuck doesn't open completely and it fails to open the bung on the toner bottles).

            If all of the above appears ok, then look at the black tube that goes up from the intermediate cylinder to the air pump above the dev unit, the black pipe could be clogged and/or the air pump might be bad (I don't know about other people's experiences but I service quite a few variants of these machines and I've had this pump go bad only once, I've had lots of pump failures on the MPC3500/4500 range of machines however which is a similar sort of arrangement)

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            • mikadonovan
              Senior Tech

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              • May 2008
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              #7
              Re: Pro 907 SC 495/494

              Originally posted by Ollie1981

              If the coil doesn't turn at all I'd be looking at the clutch and/or torque limiter in the toner bank
              I've got these on order. I've got a serious lack of toner supply, and I don't see the augers turning. Thanks for the replies, I bumped the rep of everyone that posted on this thread. Have a great Christmas!
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              • ali.alhaj
                Technician
                • Mar 2013
                • 34

                #8
                Re: Pro 907 SC 495/494

                Dear
                i have many machine in the field like 907, 1356, 1106, 1107 and each machine give sc 495 just clean the hopper pumb from inside.

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                • Oluwadare
                  Technician
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 28

                  #9
                  Re: Pro 907 SC 495/494

                  SC494 can also result from toner bottle not fitting properly into the toner hopper.

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                  • mikadonovan
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                    • May 2008
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                    #10
                    Re: Pro 907 SC 495/494

                    Originally posted by Oluwadare
                    SC494 can also result from toner bottle not fitting properly into the toner hopper.
                    This machine needed the clutch and torque limiter, which fixed it (back in December)
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                    • pppp
                      Technical specialist
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 43

                      #11
                      Re: Pro 907 SC 495/494

                      The reason is shitty toner pump (pump behind flying wheel). It is necessary to change one quite often.
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                      • slimslob
                        Retired

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                        • May 2013
                        • 37059

                        #12
                        Re: Pro 907 SC 495/494

                        Originally posted by pppp
                        The reason is shitty toner pump (pump behind flying wheel). It is necessary to change one quite often.
                        What do you consider often. I have a machine approaching 15M and have never had the toner pump cause SC 494 or 495. I have had to replace it because of toner leakage with the original pump design causing SC 300. Bulletin was put out by Ricoh.

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