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  • Dumus
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Feb 2010
    • 79

    #1

    MP C2500 thin black lines

    It all started a few days ago.
    First out one thin black line, then 2-3, then 5-6 (see Scan 1) to eventually released as the mass line (see Scan 2) and in Color (Color).I made update all of the firmware, Line position adjustment (for Scan1) is for 2-111-003: OK for 2-111-001x2: OK. When out Scann 2 or Color (with a mass of black lines): 2-111-003 is OK but 2-111-001 is failed, in 2-194-007 is 3. List of errors for 3 is too high: defecate. laser optic house, IPU, BICU ..... Does anyone knows for sure what is? Jeh.... NO any SC code....
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  • logrady2331
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • Feb 2011
    • 301

    #2
    Re: MP C2500 thin black lines

    LSU. Coupled with the registration issue I would say the LSU is funky. I've seen it a few times and it was the LSU every time.

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    • slimslob
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      • May 2013
      • 37483

      #3
      Re: MP C2500 thin black lines

      Were the samples that you attached made by scanning printout that have the lines or are the line from the scanning? If the lines are on printouts and the drums have over or close to 80,000 on them, it is time to replace the drum units. If they are considerable less than 80,000 you can get away with cleaning the charge rollers. Cleaning charge rollers is the first thing I do when a machines is getting line like those.

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      • bob marley
        Service Manager

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        • Jan 2012
        • 1339

        #4
        Re: MP C2500 thin black lines

        it seems like a dirty charge roller
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        • Dumus
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • Feb 2010
          • 79

          #5
          Re: MP C2500 thin black lines

          Sorry for the wrong appointment of attachments. Scan1 and Scan2, are actually: print1 and print2, Color is a color page print from customer. Pay attention to print2, where the ends of the line (frame of the counter,development counter and the thick lines above fax number) - outside the boundaries of A4.
          I've cleaned the charge rollers and I do not think them.

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          • dlwalston

            #6
            Re: MP C2500 thin black lines

            -your lines run all the way off the edge of the page. If it were a scanning issue the lines would stop in the blank lead and trail edge areas. I dont think this is a scan issue but instead a drum issue.

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            • Dumus
              Technician

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              • Feb 2010
              • 79

              #7
              Re: MP C2500 thin black lines

              Originally posted by dlwalston
              -your lines run all the way off the edge of the page. If it were a scanning issue the lines would stop in the blank lead and trail edge areas. I dont think this is a scan issue but instead a drum issue.
              I did not mean to lines - which are error, but at this:
              See atachment: print2.
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              • allan
                RTFM!!

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                • Apr 2010
                • 5462

                #8
                Re: MP C2500 thin black lines

                Originally posted by Dumus
                I did not mean to lines - which are error, but at this:
                See atachment: print2.
                That is late registration or i would say late start of print. that looks very digital to me. I would start by reseating connectors and ram. I also dont think its the LSU. Try to change the LSU first but this looks like a processing issue.

                This is in LEF right? Making those main scan lines?

                The registration issue could be the clutch. The color sample you attached kind of eliminates the clutch.
                Whatever

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                • Dumus
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                  • Feb 2010
                  • 79

                  #9
                  Re: MP C2500 thin black lines

                  [QUOTE=allan;455777]That is late registration or i would say late start of print. that looks very digital to me. I would start by reseating connectors and ram. I also dont think its the LSU. Try to change the LSU first but this looks like a processing issue.

                  This is in LEF right? Making those main scan lines?

                  The registration issue could be the clutch. The color sample you attached kind of eliminates the clutch.[/QUOTE


                  I think it is not a registration, because it is a print counter from the memory (left side is the beginning of the press). And I think is LSU, but I'm not sure. Has anyone changed LSU with another machines (not NEW)?

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                  • Dumus
                    Technician

                    50+ Posts
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 79

                    #10
                    Re: MP C2500 thin black lines

                    [QUOTE=Dumus;455784]
                    Originally posted by allan
                    That is late registration or i would say late start of print. that looks very digital to me. I would start by reseating connectors and ram. I also dont think its the LSU. Try to change the LSU first but this looks like a processing issue.

                    This is in LEF right? Making those main scan lines?

                    The registration issue could be the clutch. The color sample you attached kind of eliminates the clutch.

                    I think it is not a registration, because it is a print counter from the memory (left side is the beginning of the press). And I think is LSU, but I'm not sure. Has anyone changed LSU with another machines (not NEW)?

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                    • slimslob
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                      Re: MP C2500 thin black lines

                      From looking at the direction that the thin lines that cover most of the paper, I would say that this as printed SEF (Short Edge Feed). That being the case, the problem is side registration, possibly from the paper not being centered in the tray because of a chipped tooth on the side fence. Take the paper out and move the side fences in as far as they will go. If one of the fences, usually the front one, comes against the lift plate and the other one stops about 3 or 4 mm from the plate then a tooth has been broken off. Remove the lift plate and inspect the fences. Replace the one that has a missing tooth. This was most likely caused by someone trying to move the fences without unlocking the rear fence.

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                      • meldwo
                        Technician
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 36

                        #12
                        Re: MP C2500 thin black lines

                        replace the laser diod black

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                        • Gift
                          Service Manager

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                          • Mar 2011
                          • 2459

                          #13
                          Re: MP C2500 thin black lines

                          Shouldn't be a problem to switch LSU between machines - just take case and print the non default SP pages (or use a copy of the factory sp data sheet) and correct all LD related values.

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                          • Dumus
                            Technician

                            50+ Posts
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 79

                            #14
                            Re: MP C2500 thin black lines

                            Hey guys,
                            problem is solved. It sounds unbelievable but it's just dirty on both mirror on poligon motor. After almost a week of repairs, the customer has not complaint. I could not believe that such nonsense could cause the kind of stripes. (Taught from B / W copiers, not on her mind was not me that this is the case).
                            Cheers .....

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                            • bob marley
                              Service Manager

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                              • Jan 2012
                              • 1339

                              #15
                              Re: MP C2500 thin black lines

                              Originally posted by Dumus
                              Hey guys,
                              problem is solved. It sounds unbelievable but it's just dirty on both mirror on poligon motor. After almost a week of repairs, the customer has not complaint. I could not believe that such nonsense could cause the kind of stripes. (Taught from B / W copiers, not on her mind was not me that this is the case).
                              Cheers .....



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