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  • campy
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    • May 2012
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    #1

    MX-4141N guidance

    I am normally a Canon guy but I have a customer that has two mx-4141 under contract with me. One has over 400K and other than a couple of drums and a web I haven't done much to it. I have to clean the edge of the fuser film yesterday so I think it's on borrowed time. Can someone provide what I should be doing to this copier considering the mileage and cost to me. Is the fuser something that can be rebuilt and if so any instructions I could get. What about the transfer belt? Can a new belt be put on or better off replacing the whole unit?
  • harleyrider
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    #2
    Re: MX-4141N guidance

    The answer to every question you ask is in the service manual.

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    • J THUGGA
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      • Jul 2017
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      #3
      Re: MX-4141N guidance

      The fusing belt needs replacement, MX-361FB/MX-510FB, you will need the service manual for the replacement procedure. Also, the Primary transfer belt and blade just needs to be replaced not the unit, you will need the belt and blade together, Mx-510TL and Mx-510B1, be sure to clean the rubber and metal rollers in PTB before putting new belt on. Also, make sure the drums aren't missing material and the charges look good, check the copy quality. Replace bald tires in trays and DF and clean good tires, tray, reg roller, duplex, etc.. and don't forget to clean the optics, very important.
      Last edited by J THUGGA; 07-21-2017, 03:46 PM.

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      • campy
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        #4
        Re: MX-4141N guidance

        Originally posted by harleyrider
        The answer to every question you ask is in the service manual.
        I went to page 423-425 but it doesn't show how to take out the fuser roller or film. Am I looking in the wrong section?

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        • JR2ALTA
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          #5
          Re: MX-4141N guidance

          The fuser is removed with a couple screws. The belt replacement is a royal pain. If you can, replace the fuser as a whole especially since you're near 500k. I have replaced belts and webs only to have the damn thing make noises afterwards. The belt replacement is in the manual, I can't confirm the pages at the moment.

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          • campy
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            Re: MX-4141N guidance

            Originally posted by JR2ALTA
            The fuser is removed with a couple screws. The belt replacement is a royal pain. If you can, replace the fuser as a whole especially since you're near 500k. I have replaced belts and webs only to have the damn thing make noises afterwards. The belt replacement is in the manual, I can't confirm the pages at the moment.
            I have changed the web and it is a pain. Any dealers that would sell a fuser assly for a reasonable price?

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            • ZOOTECH
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              Re: MX-4141N guidance

              My advice would be to team up with an independent Sharp tech whom you could share your knowledge of Canon when they might need it, and vice versa. (It takes a village)
              "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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              • Hansen88
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                #8
                Re: MX-4141N guidance

                At the shop I work at we cant replace entire assemblys, we have to rebuild them. Transfer belt is real easy, the fuser takes 45 minutes and longer when first figuring out how to do it. I dont find sharp manuals very good for showing how to disassemble.

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                • harleyrider
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                  #9
                  Re: MX-4141N guidance

                  Fuser maintenance starts on section 9-4 in the service manual.

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                  • moose55
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                    Re: MX-4141N guidance

                    Make sure that when a drum is replaced you are also rebuilding the PCU. Part #'s are drum - MX31NRSA, and charge kit is MX510MK. If you just do the drum you will have problems prematurely down the road.
                    The Moose is loose!!

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                    • campy
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                      Re: MX-4141N guidance

                      Originally posted by moose55
                      Make sure that when a drum is replaced you are also rebuilding the PCU. Part #'s are drum - MX31NRSA, and charge kit is MX510MK. If you just do the drum you will have problems prematurely down the road.
                      I am changing the drum units not rebuilding them. Isn't the charge unit part of the drum?

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                      • ZOOTECH
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                        #12
                        Re: MX-4141N guidance

                        Originally posted by campy
                        I am changing the drum units not rebuilding them. Isn't the charge unit part of the drum?
                        Yes, the drum unit contains the MC units.
                        "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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                        • moose55
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                          #13
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                          If you are putting in an MX31NUSA, then yes, it does contain the charge unit.
                          The Moose is loose!!

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                          • jp74msj55
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                            #14
                            Re: MX-4141N guidance

                            Originally posted by campy
                            I have changed the web and it is a pain. Any dealers that would sell a fuser assly for a reasonable price?

                            Just replace the web frame unit # CFRM-1508DS53.
                            Not much difference in price. That is what I do when rebuilding fuser unit assy.

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