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  • Tech2002
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    Sharp MX3640 Tray One Not Recognizing Paper

    Tray One Not Recognizing Paper after tray is filled and closed. Change Sensor that relates to that, still will not recognize the paper in tray. Changed out Drive PWB Board - still no go.

    I thought of changing out that unit but thought I reach out with any thoughts. Thanks!
  • OlliK1969
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    Re: Sharp MX3640 Tray One Not Recognizing Paper

    Hi

    please control the vertical detect holder ( LHLDZ1463FCZ1 ) and pins behind.
    Parts manual Section 61 No. 73
    If there is an error, display say: please insert paper

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    • Tech2002
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      #3
      Re: Sharp MX3640 Tray One Not Recognizing Paper

      Originally posted by OlliK1969
      Hi

      please control the vertical detect holder ( LHLDZ1463FCZ1 ) and pins behind.
      Parts manual Section 61 No. 73
      If there is an error, display say: please insert paper
      I'll try that and let you know. Thank you!

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      • danceswrabbit
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        #4
        Re: Sharp MX3640 Tray One Not Recognizing Paper

        dont have a 3640 here but on my 3610 the top tray is not a smart tray, tray 2 is a smart tray. if you pull both out are they the same on bottom?

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        • Tech2002
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          Re: Sharp MX3640 Tray One Not Recognizing Paper

          Originally posted by danceswrabbit
          dont have a 3640 here but on my 3610 the top tray is not a smart tray, tray 2 is a smart tray. if you pull both out are they the same on bottom?
          Not sure. Are you talking about the screw at the end of the Tray? Not sure what you are referring to by Smart Tray.

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          • mansart
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            Re: Sharp MX3640 Tray One Not Recognizing Paper

            sim 30 SUB 2

            Check sensors

            CPFD1 Paper transport detector (Paper feed tray 1)
            CLUD1 Paper feed tray upper limit sensor (Paper feed tray 1)
            CPED1 Paper empty sensor (Paper feed tray 1)
            CSPD1 Paper remaining quantity sensor (Paper feed tray 1)
            CSS11 Paper feed tray size detector (Paper feed tray 1)(*1)
            CSS12
            CSS13
            CSS14
            CPFD2 Paper transport detector (Paper feed tray 2)
            CLUD2 Paper feed tray upper limit sensor (Paper feed tray 2)
            CPED2 Paper empty sensor (Paper feed tray 2)
            CSPD2 Paper remaining quantity sensor (Paper feed tray 2)
            CSS21 Paper feed tray paper size detector (Paper feed tray 2)
            CSS22
            CSS23
            CSS24
            CSS1 Paper feed tray 1 detector
            CSS2 Paper feed tray 2 detector (*1)
            CSS2SET Desk installation detection
            MPLD Paper length detector (Manual paper feed tray)
            MPED Paper empty sensor (Manual paper feed tray)

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            • JR2ALTA
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              Re: Sharp MX3640 Tray One Not Recognizing Paper

              Originally posted by Tech2002
              Not sure. Are you talking about the screw at the end of the Tray? Not sure what you are referring to by Smart Tray.
              Smart Tray refers to automatic size/orientation detection. Tray one must be told what's loaded while tray 2 recognizes.

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              • danceswrabbit
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                Re: Sharp MX3640 Tray One Not Recognizing Paper

                Smart trays have a gear thing kinda shaped like an icecream cone that rides the guides to tell the tray whats in it, dumb trays do not and have to be programmed. on mine up front smart piece on bottom of tray is black.

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                • danceswrabbit
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                  #9
                  Re: Sharp MX3640 Tray One Not Recognizing Paper

                  in my mind i thought you ment size of paper not constant paper empty.

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                  • Tech2002
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                    Re: Sharp MX3640 Tray One Not Recognizing Paper

                    Originally posted by OlliK1969
                    Hi

                    please control the vertical detect holder ( LHLDZ1463FCZ1 ) and pins behind.
                    Parts manual Section 61 No. 73
                    If there is an error, display say: please insert paper
                    Tried this - It unfortunately didn't - I am off to the PCU PWB. It is the only thing that hasn't been changed. Working it with a meter I was told is difficult and probably wouldn't give an accurate call.

                    I'll let you know the outcome.

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                    • driving lots of miles
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                      Re: Sharp MX3640 Tray One Not Recognizing Paper

                      Originally posted by Tech2002
                      Tried this - It unfortunately didn't - I am off to the PCU PWB. It is the only thing that hasn't been changed. Working it with a meter I was told is difficult and probably wouldn't give an accurate call.

                      I'll let you know the outcome.
                      We have one doing the same thing and have changed the sensor and tray holding clip, to no avail and still having the same issue. Like you we were thinking the PCU PWB also, but have not got around to that, so it is on the back burner for now.

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                      • Tech2002
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                        Re: Sharp MX3640 Tray One Not Recognizing Paper

                        Originally posted by driving lots of miles
                        We have one doing the same thing and have changed the sensor and tray holding clip, to no avail and still having the same issue. Like you we were thinking the PCU PWB also, but have not got around to that, so it is on the back burner for now.

                        Change the PCU BWB - Did nothing. I am looking at changing the Paper Feed in Tray One. It's either that or change the machine. I'll let you know.

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                        • driving lots of miles
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                          Re: Sharp MX3640 Tray One Not Recognizing Paper

                          My coworker finally found a solution to our problem of not recognizing the paper tray. The paper cassette tray was not always connecting to the tray detect sensor in the back of the machine. By adding an extra piece of thin plastic to the back of the tray it would now engages the sensor fully.

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                          • Tech2002
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                            Re: Sharp MX3640 Tray One Not Recognizing Paper

                            Originally posted by driving lots of miles
                            My coworker finally found a solution to our problem of not recognizing the paper tray. The paper cassette tray was not always connecting to the tray detect sensor in the back of the machine. By adding an extra piece of thin plastic to the back of the tray it would now engages the sensor fully.
                            Thanks for the update. I ended up changing out the Unit. The system is at an early lease and I thought it might be more prudent to change out the Unit. I could have had the Unit out 10 times trying different fixes and never gotten to a fix.

                            I appreciate the reply and will try that the next time it occurs. Thank you!

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