APPD2_N jams only on duplex prints on MX-4111N

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  • Tonersniffer
    Technician

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    • Nov 2012
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    [Jamming] APPD2_N jams only on duplex prints on MX-4111N

    Duplex jam paper is found inside duplex door stopped at last set of rollers in the right door duplex. I hear a grunt right at the time of the jam. Other sheets are: 1 is just out of what ever paper tray your feeding out. Second is near registration fuser area. Any ideas. I barely ever work on sharps. lt is MX -4111n


    Thanks Tonersniffer
  • ZOOTECH
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    • Jul 2007
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    #2
    Re: APPD2_N jams only on duplex prints on MX-4111N

    Originally posted by Tonersniffer
    Duplex jam paper is found inside duplex door stopped at last set of rollers in the right door duplex. I hear a grunt right at the time of the jam. Other sheets are: 1 is just out of what ever paper tray your feeding out. Second is near registration fuser area. Any ideas. I barely ever work on sharps. lt is MX -4111n


    Thanks Tonersniffer
    "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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    • Phil B.
      Field Supervisor

      10,000+ Posts
      • Jul 2016
      • 22808

      #3
      Re: APPD2_N jams only on duplex prints on MX-4111N

      Originally posted by Tonersniffer
      Duplex jam paper is found inside duplex door stopped at last set of rollers in the right door duplex. I hear a grunt right at the time of the jam. Other sheets are: 1 is just out of what ever paper tray your feeding out. Second is near registration fuser area. Any ideas. I barely ever work on sharps. lt is MX -4111n


      Thanks Tonersniffer
      clean the rollers....

      check for sensor operation in service mode.

      the 1st jammed page is more than likely the cause ... what is the jam code involved?

      what is the page count on service parts?

      is it dirty inside?

      what have you attempted to diag the problem.?

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      • JR2ALTA
        Service Manager

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        1,000+ Posts
        • Feb 2010
        • 2017

        #4
        Re: APPD2_N jams only on duplex prints on MX-4111N

        Originally posted by Phil B.
        clean the rollers....

        check for sensor operation in service mode.

        the 1st jammed page is more than likely the cause ... what is the jam code involved?

        what is the page count on service parts?

        is it dirty inside?

        what have you attempted to diag the problem.?
        This.

        You already know the sensor name. Most Sharps have different sims for MFP sensor check, Tray sensor check and ADU sensor check. You'll find it it's a pretty tech friendly service mode.

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        • Tonersniffer
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • Nov 2012
          • 72

          #5
          Re: APPD2_N jams only on duplex prints on MX-4111N

          Phil,


          Jam code is in my post. Cleaned all rollers. It does it 50 or so copies. When I get on here it is because I want experience not a #_#_&#-# lecture.

          Thanks for you word of wisdom. You are the best ! I been doing this 30 years, what is the sensor thingy do hinky are you talking about. I will go and check those. Thanks for the help. We need more seasoned vets like you.

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          • Phil B.
            Field Supervisor

            10,000+ Posts
            • Jul 2016
            • 22808

            #6
            Re: APPD2_N jams only on duplex prints on MX-4111N

            Originally posted by Tonersniffer
            Phil,


            Jam code is in my post. Cleaned all rollers. It does it 50 or so copies. When I get on here it is because I want experience not a #_#_&#-# lecture.

            Thanks for you word of wisdom. You are the best ! I been doing this 30 years, what is the sensor thingy do hinky are you talking about. I will go and check those. Thanks for the help. We need more seasoned vets like you.
            my BAD I missed that...

            don't worry I won't bother you again .. I've been doing this for about the same amount of time.... I don't ALWAYS check profiles for experience ...

            I didn't LECTURE you I just asked the question that a HELP DESK would ( yes I had a job there BEFORE I became a tech 31+ years ago)

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            • JR2ALTA
              Service Manager

              Site Contributor
              1,000+ Posts
              • Feb 2010
              • 2017

              #7
              Re: APPD2_N jams only on duplex prints on MX-4111N

              I didn't read it could pass 50 sheets. Either way Sharp sensors are flaky, I'd replace it.

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              • Prints Charming
                Trusted Tech

                100+ Posts
                • Aug 2019
                • 189

                #8
                Re: APPD2_N jams only on duplex prints on MX-4111N

                Does this machine have a finisher installed?
                Please keep in mind alot of random duplex jams can be caused by a timing problem through the delivery unit or duplex gate on the right door, because of a sluggish solenoid, gate, spring or perhaps torn piece of paper wedged in there. Lead-edge timing becomes out of sync and you get the 'grunt' noise you mentioned as everything comes to a sudden stop.
                If you have a finisher, take it off (and the shifter locking plate) and run the machine in duplex for a while.
                The gap between the sheet at registration/fuser and the sheet inside the duplex door is too far. The timing seems out for sure.

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                • moose55
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                  • Mar 2017
                  • 143

                  #9
                  Re: APPD2_N jams only on duplex prints on MX-4111N

                  I have also done an emergency firmware update for problems such as this, with success. Just a thought....
                  The Moose is loose!!

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                  • Tonersniffer
                    Technician

                    50+ Posts
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 72

                    #10
                    Re: APPD2_N jams only on duplex prints on MX-4111N

                    Right Door assembly fixed it, if any wants to know. Parts used:

                    CDAI-0176DS52 Qty: 1Sharp ADU PRD Unit


                    CFRM-1389DS56 Qty: 1
                    SHARP FRAME


                    RMOTS0925FCP1 Qty: 1
                    Sharp ADU Lower Motor

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