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  • ZOOTECH
    Senior member of CRS

    Site Contributor
    2,500+ Posts
    • Jul 2007
    • 3381

    Hercules Doc Feed trouble

    We just placed a new MXM850 and with less than 500K are having troubles with the doc feeder. As long as 3 or less copies are fed through the feeder, everything is fine (simplex or duplex). If more than 3 pages are fed, the forth page stops over SPPD5, 6 and 7 and gives a SPOD error. The page will stop exactly the same spot each time on the forth page - yes, the firmware is the latest and has been re-flashed again. We are about to replace the whole doc feeder at this time unless we have some help from you.
    "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --
  • bilyahn
    Service Manager

    1,000+ Posts
    • Dec 2006
    • 1455

    #2
    Re: Hercules Doc Feed trouble

    Does it matter if you are doing single sided or two sided? Haven't seen this yet!!! Have enough problems with the 2 850's we have already! LOL

    Good luck.

    Bil

    Sorry just re-read your post! Stupid question on my part!

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    • copyguy1
      Trusted Tech

      100+ Posts
      • Jul 2011
      • 143

      #3
      Re: Hercules Doc Feed trouble

      My guess is it does this on all size of paper. Outlet?? We havwe a few of these out and neverr had this issue. You may want to check all connectors Good Luck

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      • ZOOTECH
        Senior member of CRS

        Site Contributor
        2,500+ Posts
        • Jul 2007
        • 3381

        #4
        Re: Hercules Doc Feed trouble

        I won't be able to look at this for awhile, busier than shite right now. I did get word from a reliable source who mentioned a sluggish sensor return spring is most likely the fault. I will post when I'm able to give a fix.
        "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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        • rainmaker
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • Jul 2011
          • 77

          #5
          Re: Hercules Doc Feed trouble

          what i would do first is to clean all the sensors in the doc feeder.there are two under the paper feed unit itself.they are photo sensors and are prone to get paper dust on them.good luck.

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          • r3d343420
            Technician

            50+ Posts
            • Aug 2012
            • 55

            #6
            Re: Hercules Doc Feed trouble

            Test all the sensors and clutches in SIM mode. Verify they are actualy working correctly. Is there any Lag when the three sheets are being fed? it sounds like from your description that there is a timing issue from either a faulty sensor or clutch, I have over 20 of these in my territory and have never had to replace a entire doc feeder. Good Luck

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            • ZOOTECH
              Senior member of CRS

              Site Contributor
              2,500+ Posts
              • Jul 2007
              • 3381

              #7
              Re: Hercules Doc Feed trouble

              Originally posted by r3d343420
              Test all the sensors and clutches in SIM mode. Verify they are actualy working correctly. Is there any Lag when the three sheets are being fed? it sounds like from your description that there is a timing issue from either a faulty sensor or clutch, I have over 20 of these in my territory and have never had to replace a entire doc feeder. Good Luck
              We did switch out the feeder with our showroom machine to troubleshoot it away from the customer's location. All the sensors and clutches were checked out; when I get a chance, I'll add a wrap to the
              sensor return springs and update with fix.
              Thanks to all for your input..
              "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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              • ZOOTECH
                Senior member of CRS

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                2,500+ Posts
                • Jul 2007
                • 3381

                #8
                Re: Hercules Doc Feed trouble Update

                Update on repair; ran TC 7 with misfeed disabled and it fed a stack of paper; doc feed sensors were rotated to see if symptoms changed, still got SPOD_N jams;
                switched doc feed control pwb with a lease return (8 million copies) and it worked great.
                "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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