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  • spyder9179
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 5

    AR 168D feeder issue

    I've got an AR-168D that I've got a small problem with. Customer complained of doc feeder not working. Went out, sure enough, it wasn't.

    When trying to copy through feeder, it just let's out a high pitched whine, and does nothing. The feeder never attempts to start. I noticed that the whine seems to come from the scan mirror, which, when copying through feeder, looks as though it attempts to start across (sometimes just a bump, although at other times it would actually move a few inches before it stopped). As I'm sure you're aware, the 168 is like the 200D, where the lamp/mirror rests on the left side, but the slit glass is on the right, so it has to travel all the way across to scan stuff from the feeder.

    The thing is, there's no problem scanning from the glass. The lamp/mirror has no trouble traveling in those cases.

    Then, when I had the covers off, it all of a sudden started working. So I put the covers back on, made probably 3 copies through the feeder, then it stopped working and went back to what I described earlier. So at this point I'm thinking there is a communication problem with the feeder (because when testing motor in sim mode, everything seemed to work ok). So all I do is wiggle the wiring harness running from the feeder to the board, and it starts working again.

    My question is, how do I tell if it's a harness issue, or a board issue. Or is there something else that it could be that I'm missing?
  • brewster67
    Trusted Tech

    Site Contributor
    100+ Posts
    • Jul 2011
    • 167

    #2
    Re: AR 168D feeder issue

    I would clean the rod that the scanner travels on. I have this happen many times and pulling the rod cleaning it then lubing with light oil fixes it.

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    • igi
      Service Manager

      1,000+ Posts
      • Apr 2009
      • 1507

      #3
      Re: AR 168D feeder issue

      Hi
      if somebody cleaned the optics,maybe they put a long screw on top
      the scanner hits the screw hence the noise.

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      • spyder9179
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 5

        #4
        Re: AR 168D feeder issue

        All that's well and good, and I'll clean the rod and check for said screw; however, that doesn't explain why it only happens when using the feeder. It never happens when copying from the glass.

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        • igi
          Service Manager

          1,000+ Posts
          • Apr 2009
          • 1507

          #5
          Re: AR 168D feeder issue

          in that case check the cluth and the motor of the doc feeder
          if both ok, i also had similar problem when main board of the copier was the faulty part

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          • bilyahn
            Service Manager

            1,000+ Posts
            • Dec 2006
            • 1455

            #6
            Re: AR 168D feeder issue

            If you wiggled the wires and it worked then it's probably not the board. By wiggling do you mean reseating the connectors? That's something to look at but the scan rail would be something that gives you a message saying "check SPF/RSPF" or something similar (dead give away for a dirty scan rod). You didn't mention cleaning the scan rails also something to check. I've had all of these cause this problem.

            Good luck.

            Bil

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            • copyguy1
              Trusted Tech

              100+ Posts
              • Jul 2011
              • 143

              #7
              Re: AR 168D feeder issue

              You will need to do what they said clean the scan rail and bushings. After that do adj 41-6 OC float. The reason it does it only when using ADF it moves at a high rate of speed trying to gert lamp assembly into posistion.

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              • JustManuals
                Field Supervisor

                5,000+ Posts
                • Jan 2006
                • 9919

                #8
                Re: AR 168D feeder issue

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                • ZOOTECH
                  Senior member of CRS

                  Site Contributor
                  2,500+ Posts
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 3381

                  #9
                  Re: AR 168D feeder issue

                  Originally posted by MaisieManuals
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