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  • chris_c
    Technician
    • May 2012
    • 34

    #1

    Katun brand toners?

    Opinions?
  • coolbeer
    Trusted Tech
    • Jul 2011
    • 100

    #2
    Re: Katun brand toners?

    If you must use non genuine toners, these are the best of a bad bunch.

    If you looking to save money, think again.

    All aftermarket toners do not achieve the same results in any area and do long term damage to machines.

    I have worked for many dealers who have all tried and failed to achieve cost savings with such products. In most cases costs increased in excess service call outs and replacement parts.

    Who dares does not always win.

    Her endeth my sermon for today

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    • chris_c
      Technician
      • May 2012
      • 34

      #3
      Re: Katun brand toners?

      Unfortunately, I'm forced into using them. Our company has only two techs, and neither of us like using them and swear they do more harm than good in the machines. But, alas, they "save us money"..........
      Just wondering if anyone else has noticed an increase in service calls while using them.

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      • CraiginAK
        Technician

        50+ Posts
        • Jan 2013
        • 88

        #4
        Re: Katun brand toners?

        From 28 years of going back and forth with different companies I stand firm on they don't save anything in long run or for that matter even the short run.

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        • Zeldaman
          Senior Tech

          500+ Posts
          • Mar 2011
          • 946

          #5

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          • Kidaver
            Ghoulscout

            500+ Posts
            • Apr 2011
            • 912

            #6
            Re: Katun brand toners?

            My company decided to try Katun in Kyocera machines...we kept track of fusers, drums, and devs we had to replace because of it and showed how much we "saved" with it. Katun was killing 2050/2550 fusers within 20k prints....we'd have to go in and replace the fuser and dev unit to get all the katun out....
            "In a cruel and evil world, being cynical can allow you to get some entertainment out of it."

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            • DAG COPIERS & COMPUTERS
              Senior Tech

              500+ Posts
              • Oct 2010
              • 860

              #7
              Re: Katun brand toners?

              Originally posted by chris_c
              Opinions?
              The katuns of yesteryears....(1990's) used to be good; well, at least those with their packages labeled 'Made in USA, or Japan'. But alas, no more. These digital copiers are better off with OEMs.

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              • igi
                Service Manager

                1,000+ Posts
                • Apr 2009
                • 1507

                #8
                Re: Katun brand toners?

                katun=krap

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                • sandmanmac
                  Field Supervisor

                  Site Contributor
                  2,500+ Posts
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 3964

                  #9
                  Originally posted by chris_c:401494
                  Just wondering if anyone else has noticed an increase in service calls while using them.
                  Yes.... everyone has. Which makes it hard to understand why your 'boss' can't figure it out.
                  It's a pretty easy experiment to prove.

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                  • oldrn
                    Trusted Tech

                    100+ Posts
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 166

                    #10
                    Re: Katun brand toners?

                    Even more fun when it is a generic toner going in a color machine. Four imaging units and a transfer belt later, maybe it wasn't such a good idea?

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                    • JR2ALTA
                      Service Manager

                      Site Contributor
                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 2028

                      #11
                      You're boss should spend more time planning how to increase revenue than to cutting cost via discount toner.

                      I assume he plans on billing customer o.e.m price? Should be thrown in jail

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                      • lky1978
                        Trusted Tech

                        250+ Posts
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 475

                        #12
                        Not so bad if compare with other CHINA brand.

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                        • havokprod
                          Trusted Tech

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                          100+ Posts
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 156

                          #13
                          Re: Katun brand toners?

                          It really depends on the box. With the AR-M 350/355 and MX-M 350 series I've had good luck with Katun, and the off brand no-name Chinese stuff as well. But the bigger AR-M/MX-M 550 no dice, OEM all the way. It's a matter of testing........

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                          • chris_c
                            Technician
                            • May 2012
                            • 34

                            #14
                            Re: Katun brand toners?

                            After repeat issues, we've finally stopped using the color cartridges. They are still going to try the black Katun toners on the smaller copiers, so I guess its a small victory.

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                            • teklife256
                              Trusted Tech

                              100+ Posts
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 164

                              #15
                              Re: Katun brand toners?

                              In a competitive market place I won't blame the suits for trying to save money with the Katun toners. From what I have read here Katun seems to work out on select machines. Any success with Katun on perhaps B402s, Mx503s, etc?

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