does this look like a ROS problem?

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  • dc260
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2014
    • 8

    #1

    does this look like a ROS problem?

    I recently installed a docucolor 260 and it has cross process deletions in the black only. I have swapped drums, replaced black developer housing, IBT belt and 1st BTL rollers. Have cleaned the glass window of the ROS. Could this be a laser problem? I did a calibration which improved the density of the black.
    Your opinions please before I rip into the machine, thanksdeletions in black 2.jpg
    deletions in black closeup.jpgjust added close up of deletions
    Last edited by dc260; 06-18-2014, 01:53 AM. Reason: close up of deletion
  • Iowatech
    Not a service manager

    2,500+ Posts
    • Dec 2009
    • 3930

    #2
    Re: does this look like a ROS problem?

    As I am the newest of noobs for Xerox I'll be interested in seeing what the actual solution for this is.
    If I had seen the vertical voids in the black portion of a test pattern like that one (assuming that is process black from a mix of CYM toner, not standard black from black toner) on the machines I've actually worked on for a while, I'd take that as a color alignment problem and check the sensors that take care of that alignment first, and then do the service mode color alignments. But that's probably not even a little right here. I don't even recognize that test pattern after all.

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    • dc260
      Junior Member
      • Jun 2014
      • 8

      #3
      Re: does this look like a ROS problem?

      I think it was test pattern 6

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      • mvd007
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 7

        #4
        Re: does this look like a ROS problem?

        Hi,
        Try a j75 or a dc5000 devbox....that'll probably fix it.
        The original unit for the dc250 are terrible.

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        • mickey singh
          Technician

          50+ Posts
          • May 2014
          • 93

          #5
          Re: does this look like a ROS problem?

          could you try test pattern 11 and get post a pic, bout 30% and ill be able to tell you what it is?

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          • dc260
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2014
            • 8

            #6
            Re: does this look like a ROS problem?

            Here is one at 35% and 45% Thanks for your help
            Attached Files

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            • mickey singh
              Technician

              50+ Posts
              • May 2014
              • 93

              #7
              Re: does this look like a ROS problem?

              Looks like a drive issue, take it youve changed the black drum first, im thinking more of devdrive assy of black drum drive, with a ros the lines are usually 2mm apart!

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              • dc260
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2014
                • 8

                #8
                Re: does this look like a ROS problem?

                Originally posted by mickey singh
                Looks like a drive issue, take it youve changed the black drum first, im thinking more of devdrive assy of black drum drive, with a ros the lines are usually 2mm apart!
                Just looking at drive assembly PL 1.1. Could the developer bias and change preclean PL11.2 play a part?

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                • mickey singh
                  Technician

                  50+ Posts
                  • May 2014
                  • 93

                  #9
                  Re: does this look like a ROS problem?

                  Dev bias yes, but in the 2nd pic you can see about 90mm between the lines, if it is about 90mm then your looking at black drum related!

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                  • dc260
                    Junior Member
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 8

                    #10
                    Re: does this look like a ROS problem?

                    Ok, so now I have replaced the developer drive assembly and opened the ros and cleaned class and mirrors. While the black is now sharper and less mottled the high frequency bands remain/ They do appear less intense when things warm up which is odd to me. I was wondering if something has been damaged when it was moved (it has been shipped from USA to New Zealand). The manual says to clean the black drum HV contacts - where do I find those? I might replace the K bias HVPS next - anyone have any further thoughts -

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                    • dc260
                      Junior Member
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 8

                      #11
                      Re: does this look like a ROS problem?

                      So finally have traced the problem - it is the k bias hvps turns out it is cracked.

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                      • rafiqm

                        #12
                        Re: does this look like a ROS problem?

                        Originally posted by dc260
                        So finally have traced the problem - it is the k bias hvps turns out it is cracked.
                        Good to hear that you solve your problem. Can you share the picture of culprit.

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                        • yomba
                          Technician
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 37

                          #13
                          Re: does this look like a ROS problem?

                          Originally posted by Iowatech
                          As I am the newest of noobs for Xerox I'll be interested in seeing what the actual solution for this is.
                          If I had seen the vertical voids in the black portion of a test pattern like that one (assuming that is process black from a mix of CYM toner, not standard black from black toner) on the machines I've actually worked on for a while, I'd take that as a color alignment problem and check the sensors that take care of that alignment first, and then do the service mode color alignments. But that's probably not even a little right here. I don't even recognize that test pattern after all.



                          How many clicks are on this machine? have you tried the mcu board?

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                          • Matthieu Roger
                            Junior Member
                            • Jan 2025
                            • 2

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dc260
                            Re: does this look like a ROS problem?

                            So finally have traced the problem - it is the k bias hvps turns out it is cracked.
                            Hello have this same problem, do you have picture of the hvps black please,

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                            • Matthieu Roger
                              Junior Member
                              • Jan 2025
                              • 2

                              #15
                              only on black , can someone help, already change drumunit with new one, clean inside ROS , change developper house , developer powder, corotron charge, but same !
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