Fiery disc cloning

[bojans]

Hi folks,

In the past years, had couple situations with dead hdd's, corrupted softwares etc, on bustled Fiery for DC 260.
As we know DC 260 has Hot folder ability as default option, which is made active by using Dongle (one time used usb stick).
After you make it active it works until you have to change software or replace hdd. As far as I understand after that you have to buy another HotFolder activation dongle, which is not cheap at all. If not machine will work at 20ppm speed.
Now i have one machine fully working, but don't want to get in situation to buy another dongle if something goes wrong.

My question is, has anyone ever tried to make a clone of Dc 260 fiery's hdd, and was it working? Which program did you use? I use to use Clonezilla for some jobs. Could I try it?

Thank you

[mickey singh]

Re: Fiery disc cloning

I know there is a back up disc we used to use for external fierys, you can copy the software to an external harddrive, and if you fiery went down you can reinstall it from back up and all settings would be the same,it takes 20 mins to reinstall from back up rather then uploading all discs and patches, im not too sure about bustled rips though!

[bojans]

Re: Fiery disc cloning

Thank you,
this is bustled fiery, and there in no option to restore software that way.
External servers will work without dongle. You can restore or reload software and machine will work....
Regards

[xcopytech]

Re: Fiery disc cloning

Hot folder option is not on hdd.
You can replace hdd and reload fiery software from cd and hot folder option will stay on fiery.

[adriansto]

Re: Fiery disc cloning

You can use clonezilla. Make image of whole hdd not of partitions

[bojans]

Re: Fiery disc cloning

Ok, thank you.
But why is it asking for dongle on other machine?
It was enabled and working before.

[xcopytech]

Re: Fiery disc cloning

You can use also fiery clone tool.
With this software you can clone bustled fiery hdd to usb stick and reload it from that usb also.

Because hot folder option was not installed on that fiery.
Once when install hot folder it will stay on that fiery.

[bojans]

Re: Fiery disc cloning

Thank you,
So you're telling me that information is stored on Fiery's motherboard,bios,eeprom or somewhere there...
And someone was messing with fiery and lost option.

[xcopytech]

Re: Fiery disc cloning

No. I think that your customer have dc260 with dc242/252 fiery.
For dc242/252 fiery hot folder is only option and machine can work without it.

[bojans]

Re: Fiery disc cloning

Everything is possible.
I have two customers with this problem, not in my country.
One bought new DC 260, and I suppose everything was enabled and working. But suddenly his machine started to print error sheet and work slow.
The other bought used Dc 260, dongle stick was in the usb port, but same problem.

That's way I thought that information was on the hdd...

[Daan]

Re: Fiery disc cloning

I see very little reason to actually clone the hdd of a bustled dc 260 rip.
The reinstall procedure is fast and smooth, and to my knowledge the machine options are not saved on the controller.
If its slow start by reinstalling the controller, then start looking elsewhere.

If you dont want to mess with your current installation, you can always just take out the old disc, and reinstall on an empty one, if it gives you issues just put the old one back in and its as it was. a new 80gb hdd costs u like 25$

[Daan]

Re: Fiery disc cloning

to answer your second question, yes ive made several clones of them before, when more than one machine had to be re installed at the same time.
I usually use either paragon partition master or easeus partition manager, depending on whether i wanna backup 1 on 1 or to an iso file for use later on.

[bojans]

Re: Fiery disc cloning

Hi Daan,
thank you for reply and info.

I have experience of reinstalling all kind of fierys and systems.I agree reinstall procedure is fast and smooth with CD's. The easiest way for cloning is with fieryclone tool.
As explained earlier if you didn't enable hot folder on DC 260 it prints on 20ppm speed. It's not slow due to slow system or bad hdd.
I thought that option was stored somewhere in fiery system, so that's why wanted to make image of entire system, if something goes wrong.
xcopytech explained that info isn't stored on hdd, so no need for cloning.

[adriansto]

Re: Fiery disc cloning

Sometimes is not so easy to reload software on bustled Fiery especially when you use the three software cd's. If one cd go error the you need to restart whole procedure.
More comfortable is to use usb stick for reloading software for this type of Fiery.
And is a good practice to have a hdd clone with you when you are servicing Fiery.

[bojans]

Re: Fiery disc cloning

I had bad cd's once and I was out of my country. Since then i have made images and have it on external hdd.
Once had to change 4 laptops to reinstall software. It was something with ethernet card speed.
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