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  • bluvoelker
    Technician
    • Mar 2019
    • 16

    Riso drum wide vs non

    I'm having trouble with the master roll attaching to my riso rp drum W, it keeps jamming before getting to the drum but when I swap out that drum with one of my others, the master has no problem. I'm completely baffled and wasn't sure if my drums are different sizes and my machine isn't letting me know to change the size, not sure how to tell them apart, because a warning is suppose to pop up, but what if that was malfunctioning? Any help would be amazing, thanks
  • 20gaugeO/U
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Feb 2009
    • 551

    #2
    Re: Riso drum wide vs non

    Well, if you set both drums on the table they should be the same length. It should pop a code if the drum is the wrong type installed. I believe all RP's are wide, shorter drums were the smaller RN machines. Maybe the small plastic white collars on the drum clamp plate sheet are broken not allowing the master to load. Compare the 2 when they are on the table

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    • bluvoelker
      Technician
      • Mar 2019
      • 16

      #3
      Originally posted by 20gaugeO/U
      Well, if you set both drums on the table they should be the same length. It should pop a code if the drum is the wrong type installed. I believe all RP's are wide, shorter drums were the smaller RN machines. Maybe the small plastic white collars on the drum clamp plate sheet are broken not allowing the master to load. Compare the 2 when they are on the table

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      • bluvoelker
        Technician
        • Mar 2019
        • 16

        #4
        Originally posted by 20gaugeO/U
        Well, if you set both drums on the table they should be the same length. It should pop a code if the drum is the wrong type installed. I believe all RP's are wide, shorter drums were the smaller RN machines. Maybe the small plastic white collars on the drum clamp plate sheet are broken not allowing the master to load. Compare the 2 when they are on the table

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        • Phil B.
          Field Supervisor

          10,000+ Posts
          • Jul 2016
          • 22808

          #5
          Re: Riso drum wide vs non

          the tab that you added the DT to... it made the reach of the metal flag longer therefore allowing it to break the beam on the optical sensor.

          drum doesn't seat right b/c you are pushing it past it's intended slot...

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          • bluvoelker
            Technician
            • Mar 2019
            • 16

            #6
            Re: Riso drum wide vs non

            I found that the drum must have dropped on the back center metal rod that sticks out, completely bending the back metal plate in the middle which seems to be pushing the drum cylinder about 2cm towards the front. Would this be enough damage to cause the master to not set right? Currently taking that part off.

            Originally posted by Phil B.
            the tab that you added the DT to... it made the reach of the metal flag longer therefore allowing it to break the beam on the optical sensor.

            drum doesn't seat right b/c you are pushing it past it's intended slot...

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            • Phil B.
              Field Supervisor

              10,000+ Posts
              • Jul 2016
              • 22808

              #7
              Re: Riso drum wide vs non

              Originally posted by bluvoelker
              I found that the drum must have dropped on the back center metal rod that sticks out, completely bending the back metal plate in the middle which seems to be pushing the drum cylinder about 2cm towards the front. Would this be enough damage to cause the master to not set right? Currently taking that part off.
              Well.. having to push to get it to read " drum present " .. that would be logical..
              Caveat.. what is the function of that plat?

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              • 20gaugeO/U
                Senior Tech

                500+ Posts
                • Feb 2009
                • 551

                #8
                Re: Riso drum wide vs non

                That plate presses the print drum safety switch. You can go to the back of the machine and bend the actuator a bit so it triggers the switch easier/sooner. After slamming the drum in for years the actuator can bend a bit.

                Look for the 2 front and 1 rear white plastic collars on the clamp plate (about the size of a dime). They used to crack and break causing.... master jams

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                • bluvoelker
                  Technician
                  • Mar 2019
                  • 16

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