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  • ekrengel
    • Sep 2024

    [Misc] Changing x & y offset copying, fed by stack bypass

    So we have an iR3045 that had some custom settings applied to it for copying, with paper being fed from the stack bypass. These settings I believe affected the x & y to center the copy on whatever layout they wanted. I cannot for the life of me remember how to get to these settings. I know I had to go into service mode...but I can't remember how to do that either

    Ultimatley, we have another printer (iR3035), that I need to mimic the same settings for.

    Can anyone help?
  • charm5496
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    #2
    go to service mode * (2/8) *

    Copier>Function>misc-p>p-print

    Do this on both machines so you can see what is different on the two devices. Do not go and change every setting that is different between the two units. There will be differences and that is the way it is supposed to be.
    IMO I do not believe this is a service mode setting unless it is in level 2 which you can really screw some things up on your machine if you do not know what you are doing.
    Accidents don't just happen. They must be carelessly planned.

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    • teckat
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      #3
      Originally posted by ekrengel
      So we have an iR3045 that had some custom settings applied to it for copying, with paper being fed from the stack bypass. These settings I believe affected the x & y to center the copy on whatever layout they wanted. I cannot for the life of me remember how to get to these settings. I know I had to go into service mode...but I can't remember how to do that either

      Ultimatley, we have another printer (iR3035), that I need to mimic the same settings for.

      Can anyone help?

      **set it up in RUI
      From RUI, select Add. Func. and Common Setting.
      Click on Common Settings again.
      Scroll down until you see Use Stack Bypass Standard Settings. Select the option and use the drop down menus to select paper size and type.

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      Scroll up and click OK to save the settings. Then log off of RUI. Setting changes are immediate.

      ***Can also be set up on Control panel/ same way
      **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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      • mrfixit51
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        • Oct 2008
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        #4
        Originally posted by teckat
        **set it up in RUI
        From RUI, select Add. Func. and Common Setting.
        Click on Common Settings again.
        Scroll down until you see Use Stack Bypass Standard Settings. Select the option and use the drop down menus to select paper size and type.

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        Scroll up and click OK to save the settings. Then log off of RUI. Setting changes are immediate.

        ***Can also be set up on Control panel/ same way
        Isn't that the same thing as telling the copier to not prompt for paper size and type every time you place paper into the bypass? I don't think that would have anything to do with the X / Y settings???
        "Once a King, always a King, but once a Knight is enough!"

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        • ekrengel

          #5
          I was just looking at that as well, and can't find what you are looking at. In Add Func, I have "custom settings", not common settings. But in custom settings, there is "custom common settings", but still doesn't have what you are looking at.

          Anyways, I think the settings were in level 2. With * (2/8) * , do you mean press "*" --> "2 & 8" at the same time --> "*" ? Or do you mean it as literal, the way you typed it: "*" --> "(" --> "2" --> "/" --> 8 --> ")" --> "*"

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          • SCREWTAPE
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            #6
            Why don't you try initializing additional functions copy settings, under additional funtions/ common settings/standard settings/initializing. This will bring every thing back to a default setting.
            I don't think you have to go into service mode to adjust X and Y in this situation unless they were adjusted in service mode before.
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            • ekrengel

              #7
              Originally posted by SCREWTAPE
              Why don't you try initializing the copy settings under additional funtions/ common settings/standard settings/initializing. This will bring every thing back to a default setting.
              I don't think you have to go into service mode to adjust X and Y in this situation unless they were adjusted in service mode before.
              They were adjusted in service mode before. I don't want the default settings....I want to see the custom settings, and put the same setting on the other copier.

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              • SCREWTAPE
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                #8
                Additional functions 2&8 Additional functions>Copier>Adjust>ADJ-XY
                This is how you enter service mode?
                Why would anyone adjust these values for the bypass??

                ADJ-X
                ADJ-Y
                ADJ-S
                ADJ-DF

                Also every copier has its own sort of birth certificate behind the front cover with the factory values on it, which if you remove it you would see.
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                • teckat
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by SCREWTAPE
                  Why don't you try initializing additional functions copy settings, under additional funtions/ common settings/standard settings/initializing. This will bring every thing back to a default setting.
                  I don't think you have to go into service mode to adjust X and Y in this situation unless they were adjusted in service mode before.
                  ****Zoom Fine Adjustment
                  When you print a copy or a document from an inbox, a slight difference in size may
                  occur between the size of the original image, and the size of the copied/printed
                  image. In this case, you can perform a fine adjustment to compensate for this
                  difference.
                  1 Press (Additional Functions) [Adjustment/Cleaning]
                  [Zoom Fine Adjustment].
                  2 Press [-] or [+] to adjust the percentage (%) press [OK].
                  If you are making an adjustment to either the X (horizontal) or Y (vertical)
                  direction, press [-] or [+] to enter a value for that direction only.


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                  • SCREWTAPE
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by teckat
                    I misread his post/ I assumed poster wants to use irregular size paper in bypass / u can layout & center a document from the Apps your are using .
                    Well he says the adjustments were made in service mode, humm..
                    Lets see what else he says. We know what these ADJ-X&Y adjustments do.
                    I mean if they were adjusted that means everything is off not just the bypass, humm..

                    I don't think you misread his post.
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                    • teckat
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by ekrengel
                      They were adjusted in service mode before. I don't want the default settings....I want to see the custom settings, and put the same setting on the other copier.
                      is this what u mean
                      ****Zoom Fine Adjustment
                      When you print a copy or a document from an inbox, a slight difference in size may
                      occur between the size of the original image, and the size of the copied/printed
                      image. In this case, you can perform a fine adjustment to compensate for this
                      difference.
                      1 Press (Additional Functions) [Adjustment/Cleaning]
                      [Zoom Fine Adjustment].
                      2 Press [-] or [+] to adjust the percentage (%) press [OK].
                      If you are making an adjustment to either the X (horizontal) or Y (vertical)
                      direction, press [-] or [+] to enter a value for that direction only.
                      **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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                      • ekrengel

                        #12
                        Ok let me clarify what is actually happening. The user has these pre-printed forums that are blank, with just lines and boxes. Those are then loaded into stack bypass. The data that is to be printed onto the lines and boxes, is then put on the glass of the copier and printed onto the paper from stack bypass.

                        The x & y needed to be adjusted just for that purpose, but only for stack bypass.

                        I"ll check this out tomorrow to see if it's what I'm looking for:
                        Additional functions 2&8 Additional functions>Copier>Adjust>ADJ-XY

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                        • SCREWTAPE
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by ekrengel
                          Ok let me clarify what is actually happening. The user has these pre-printed forums that are blank, with just lines and boxes. Those are then loaded into stack bypass. The data that is to be printed onto the lines and boxes, is then put on the glass of the copier and printed onto the paper from stack bypass.

                          The x & y needed to be adjusted just for that purpose, but only for stack bypass.

                          I"ll check this out tomorrow to see if it's what I'm looking for:
                          Additional functions 2&8 Additional functions>Copier>Adjust>ADJ-XY
                          if you make adjustments in service mode it throws everything off.
                          There isn't a single adjustment for the bypass under these settings in service mode.
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                          • D_L_P
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by ekrengel
                            Ok let me clarify what is actually happening. The user has these pre-printed forums that are blank, with just lines and boxes. Those are then loaded into stack bypass. The data that is to be printed onto the lines and boxes, is then put on the glass of the copier and printed onto the paper from stack bypass.

                            The x & y needed to be adjusted just for that purpose, but only for stack bypass.

                            I"ll check this out tomorrow to see if it's what I'm looking for:
                            Additional functions 2&8 Additional functions>Copier>Adjust>ADJ-XY
                            If you just want to adjust the bypass, there are 2 screws on the tray. Unfortunately this is just for one direction, top-to-bottom (X?) assuming it's portrait.

                            Just so you know any adjustments to ADJ-XY will adjust the image position on every tray. Same with Adjusting registration though.
                            Good luck, adjusting registration takes time and patience!

                            Edit: didn't see Screwtapes post, sorry for the duplicate info
                            Last edited by D_L_P; 05-06-2010, 02:30 AM. Reason: just saw Screwtapes post

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                            • teckat
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by ekrengel
                              Ok let me clarify what is actually happening. The user has these pre-printed forums that are blank, with just lines and boxes. Those are then loaded into stack bypass. The data that is to be printed onto the lines and boxes, is then put on the glass of the copier and printed onto the paper from stack bypass.

                              The x & y needed to be adjusted just for that purpose, but only for stack bypass.

                              I"ll check this out tomorrow to see if it's what I'm looking for:
                              Additional functions 2&8 Additional functions>Copier>Adjust>ADJ-XY

                              there is no way u can scan in & or copy that original data & and expect it to mach up in boxes & lines on forms in a bypass tray
                              **Knowledge is time consuming, exhausting and costly for a trained Tech.**

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