Hp P4014 REVIEWS?

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  • pjdbm
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • Sep 2007
    • 360

    #1

    Hp P4014 REVIEWS?

    I just ordered one of these for a customer with a HP4050 with 1.2 million on it. I know they are not what they use to be but is this printer any good? will it handle 100k a year?

    ps I tried to sell them a refurbished HP8150 but they wanted new.
  • JustManuals
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    • Jan 2006
    • 9838

    #2
    Well, it has a monthly duty cycle of 175K so I guess it would do 100K a year. Although reading the spec page is a tad confusing. Here:
    HP LaserJet P4014 Printer series specifications - HP Small & Medium Business products

    HtH
    Paul@justmanuals.com

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    • Rob Sandberg
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      • Jul 2008
      • 275

      #3
      I have one of these at a very busy doctor office at the front desk.
      It has been there for 6 months without a problem.
      And these are not the must intelengent user.

      Rob

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      • fixthecopier
        ALIEN OVERLORD

        2,500+ Posts
        • Apr 2008
        • 4714

        #4
        The lady that we just hired came from an HP dealer. Said the hard drives had issues on the previous model. The more I work on HP, the more I know they are not made as good as they used to be.
        The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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        • pjdbm
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          • Sep 2007
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          #5
          WTF does this mean:

          Monthly duty cycle
          Up to 175,000 pages

          Recommended monthly print volume
          3,000 to 12,000 pages

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          • prntrfxr
            Service Manager

            1,000+ Posts
            • Apr 2008
            • 1627

            #6
            Hp P4014 REVIEWS?

            sounds like they want to say their machine can do 175,000 per month, but would rather you didnt print any more than 3,000 - 12,000 pages. We havent seen any HP bulletins other than software, OS, & driver issues. The only error codes addressed is opt equipmt 13 paper jam errors, 49 errors and 68 errors (replace formatter & dc controller to fix).
            Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Coke in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO, what a ride!".

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            • CanonHPTech
              Trusted Tech

              100+ Posts
              • Apr 2007
              • 235

              #7
              Monthly duty cycles are nonsense, just a clever way to market machines. What happen to the old fashion MTBF (Mean Time Between Failure) rating? Customers didn't really like that unless they were military, but it sure sounded cool and appeared that someone was actually running these devices continously before they would have an error/jam. These ratings really do not mean anything unless the engineers are actually field/bench testing these things for 175k at a time. I have seen very few printers, even HP's, that could do 100k in a year, let alone a month without issue. These ratings also do not include customers breaking cassettes, inserting toner wrong, or worn fuser films that do not cause any error but do cause ghosting, or even non-steady jamming/multi-feeding that is at least causing 20 out of 40 pages to be printed out of a job. These machines are not copiers and even well built copiers can still be visited ever 100-175k for bald rollers, corona wires and films/upper rollers.
              The glass maybe half full, but less is more...
              Printer + Fax + Copier = Jack Of Many Trades,
              but Master Of None
              Color Copier = Not A Color Printer
              InkJet MFP = Not A Fax Machine
              B/W Copier = Not A Press
              Finisher = Deal Closer (salesman, not accessory)
              Copier Tech = Admin's Stress Ball (Scapegoat)

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              • JustManuals
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                5,000+ Posts
                • Jan 2006
                • 9838

                #8
                Originally posted by fixthecopier
                The lady that we just hired came from an HP dealer. Said the hard drives had issues on the previous model. The more I work on HP, the more I know they are not made as good as they used to be.
                Unfortunately nothing is as good as it used to be.
                HP started to really go downhill when Carly took over.

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                • Rob Sandberg
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                  • Jul 2008
                  • 275

                  #9
                  And Carly does not work there any more.

                  Rob S

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                  • JustManuals
                    Field Supervisor

                    5,000+ Posts
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 9838

                    #10
                    But HP is still going downhill

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