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  • bonnie750
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • Nov 2007
    • 302

    4345

    Hello all

    i've got a job on monday on a 4345 which has had the swing gear replaced by another tech and the noise is still there.. he reckons it's the gear which drives that which is worn. anyone out there got any experience of changing this.....anything to watch out for?

    thanks
  • Rick Martinez
    Technician

    50+ Posts
    • Sep 2009
    • 77

    #2
    if you have replaced the full swing plate assembly on a 4350 a few times it should be the same just it has more components to remove thats all.
    here are some pics of my last call in which i replaced the swing plate assy.


    IMG_0086.JPGIMG_0087.JPG

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    • bonnie750
      Trusted Tech

      250+ Posts
      • Nov 2007
      • 302

      #3
      thanks for that Rick. we have only ever had the swing gear and disc supplied from stores. i see there is the whole bracket which that fits into.

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      • Rick Martinez
        Technician

        50+ Posts
        • Sep 2009
        • 77

        #4
        yes the assembly is kind of tricky the first time but after that you will get the hang of it, that picture was my first time replacing the whole assembly and took me about 1.5 hrs.

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        • landspeeder
          Trusted Tech

          250+ Posts
          • Feb 2010
          • 355

          #5
          nice pictures...brings back memories
          You never realize how cheap a professional is until after you let an amateur do it.... and
          if this was an easy thing to do then everybody would be doing it! But it isn't and they are not!!

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          • JustManuals
            Field Supervisor

            5,000+ Posts
            • Jan 2006
            • 9919

            #6
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            • loubsg
              Junior Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 6

              #7
              Re: 4345

              check youtube for a very good instructional video. This link is very useful. make sure you account for all your screws.

              Lou

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              • faxman28
                Trusted Tech

                Site Contributor
                250+ Posts
                • Nov 2010
                • 436

                #8
                Re: 4345

                great video, you used to be able to get the swing plate kit which had swing plate assy and fuser gear. replacing swing plate assy and fuser gear/fuser unit, is the way to go. just replacing the gear and spacer disc the problem would come back very quickly.

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                • theengel
                  Service Manager

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1784

                  #9
                  Re: 4345

                  Originally posted by Rick Martinez
                  first time replacing the whole assembly and took me about 1.5 hrs.
                  Impressive. I believe it took me about 2.5.

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                  • Judd
                    Technician
                    • May 2014
                    • 23

                    #10
                    Re: 4345

                    i have literally done hundreds of these in the shop. Since we already have the covers off for cleaning, etc, it takes me less than 15 minutes on a 4250. 4345 longer as there is more stuff to remove.

                    One thing is after mounting the swing plate, its a good idea to check the drum drive arm that attaches to the lid and make sure it moves properly. I think I usually make sure its down when installing the plate. I forget, its like auto drive when I do it, lol. I also put the machine on its side when removing and reinstalling the plate on a 4250.

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                    • prntrfxr
                      Service Manager

                      1,000+ Posts
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 1637

                      #11
                      Re: 4345

                      I know this is an older post, but someone may have need of this information again:

                      Just a note, if the damaged swing plate has been in the machine a while it might have damaged the main drive. (Sometimes you meet a gem of a client that decides to wait to call a tech because "it's noisy, but it still works." If so, you will end up having to replace the Main Drive. ) Main drive > Swing Plate > Fuser is the way the machine is set up. If you have changed the fuser and the swing plate asm and you still have noise the main drive is your next step.

                      IMO, the LPR bushing is the culprit in all of the 42xx/43xx swing plate issues. The bushing gets worn, the LPR starts to wobble, and then the fuser gear damages the swing plate gear. If you are just replacing the fuser gear, make sure you replace the LPR bushings at the same time. Otherwise, you will probably have this problem again. Some techs like going out every other month to change the swing plate. It's up to you. I do not.

                      I have attempted to attach step-by-step instructions for replacing the swing plate assembly in the this machines. Hope it helps.
                      Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Coke in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO-HOO, what a ride!".

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