Questions about my new HP Color LaserJet CM3530

[Rob Sandberg]

Re: Questions about my new HP Color LaserJet CM3530

I have faith in aab1 to continue on his merry way.

[rthonpm]

Re: Questions about my new HP Color LaserJet CM3530

I have faith in aab1 to continue on his merry way.

If by merry way you mean trying to justify printing production volume on low to mid volume machines, griping about low toner yields when not understanding the basics of laser printing, and then trying to get anyone to believe that high speed inkjets will replace laser copiers, then yeah: he'll be on his merry way...

[Rob Sandberg]

Re: Questions about my new HP Color LaserJet CM3530

See great (ego trip) techs do think alike.

Rob S

[JustManuals]

Re: Questions about my new HP Color LaserJet CM3530

Another quick question: On my Canon when I sent a print job while it was in sleep mode, it took 5 minutes if not more before it started printing. With this HP machine, even if it's been in the deepest sleep (sleep 2) for hours, if I send a print job it starts printing in a matter of seconds.

Both the specs of the HP and the Canon say first page out in a few seconds so I expected it to be a lie with the HP too, so why is it true for HP and a complete lie for Canon? Does the HP keep itself slightly preheated even in sleep 2, or is it just able to preheat from cold within seconds? I was almost thinking of getting a cheap inkjet for when I don't want to wait over 5 minutes for a page to print, but since this HP really does first page out within seconds there's no need for an inkjet.

On the other hand, whenever this HP wakes up, it goes through an "Initializing scanner..." process that takes nearly a minute before the scanner can be used, why does the scanner need to be initialized each time it comes out of sleep? It's my first all in one that behaves this way and it seems like a waste of time if none of my other machines had to do that (though older non-LED scanners did have to warm up the lamp).

Did your mother have any children that lived? The better part of you ran down your old man's leg. Sheesh!

RTFM and stop asking inane questions, What's your IP address, I want to ban you from my sites

[aab1]

Re: Questions about my new HP Color LaserJet CM3530

The jet direct is part of the formatter board and cannot be removed, so don't try.
When I install a new printer for a customer I stated the following.
Fined and read the user manual (RTFM) This will save you alot of time and money.

Then if you need to know buy the manual from Paul.

This will help you ask better questions of the techs at this site.

Rob S

Maybe you're not familiar with this model but it does indeed have a built in jetdirect server, but it also has a second "better" jetdirect server installed in the EIO slot which can be removed. However, I won't remove and sell it unless I find a cover plate to block the hole that would be left from removing it.

If by merry way you mean trying to justify printing production volume on low to mid volume machines, griping about low toner yields when not understanding the basics of laser printing, and then trying to get anyone to believe that high speed inkjets will replace laser copiers, then yeah: he'll be on his merry way...

Firstly this new HP has a duty cycle of 75 000 pages/month and these days I probably print less than 2000 pages a month. This machine also has 3 times the toner yield of the crappy Canon machine it replaced so that's no longer a problem and was one of my main reasons for upgrading (that and the fact the Canon didn't have a toner gauge and simply stopped printing when a cartridge was empty, leaving you no way to know when you need to order new cartridges, this HP reports toner levels in 1% accuracy).

And this year new 60 page/minute inkjets were released that cost only $800, a 60ppm color laser costs at least ten times more than that.

Here's a video comparing a low end color laser printer, the new high speed inkjet technology, and a typical low end HP home inkjet printer:

That's double the speed of my new HP Color LaserJet (for the same price as the printer only version of my LaserJet), you can't say that's not impressive for an $800 inkjet printer. The reason I went with laser is that since this high speed inkjet technology is new, it's not yet available in with duplex capability nor in all in one models, but those will likely be coming out within a year. Once the all in one models with duplex printing will be out laser machines will have some serious competition, as a laser machine with the same speed costs about 10 times more.

[Eric1968]

Re: Questions about my new HP Color LaserJet CM3530

Maybe you're not familiar with this model but it does indeed have a built in jetdirect server, but it also has a second "better" jetdirect server installed in the EIO slot which can be removed. However, I won't remove and sell it unless I find a cover plate to block the hole that would be left from removing it.



Firstly this new HP has a duty cycle of 75 000 pages/month and these days I probably print less than 2000 pages a month. This machine also has 3 times the toner yield of the crappy Canon machine it replaced so that's no longer a problem and was one of my main reasons for upgrading (that and the fact the Canon didn't have a toner gauge and simply stopped printing when a cartridge was empty, leaving you no way to know when you need to order new cartridges, this HP reports toner levels in 1% accuracy).

And this year new 60 page/minute inkjets were released that cost only $800, a 60ppm color laser costs at least ten times more than that.

Here's a video comparing a low end color laser printer, the new high speed inkjet technology, and a typical low end HP home inkjet printer:

That's double the speed of my new HP Color LaserJet (for the same price as the printer only version of my LaserJet), you can't say that's not impressive for an $800 inkjet printer. The reason I went with laser is that since this high speed inkjet technology is new, it's not yet available in with duplex capability nor in all in one models, but those will likely be coming out within a year. Once the all in one models with duplex printing will be out laser machines will have some serious competition, as a laser machine with the same speed costs about 10 times more.

If a manufacturer mentiones duty cycles, divide that amount by 2 or 3 to get the real duty cycle.