Konica 226 or Konica 4052 - worth buying?

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  • dunno
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2019
    • 3

    #1

    Konica 226 or Konica 4052 - worth buying?

    Greetings,

    I am searching for most reliable and cost efficient (in terms of service) machine for small number of copies (~3000). Are those 2 models worth their price or should I go for Xerox B1025 for half the price.
  • blazebusiness
    SanDiegoCopierRepair.com

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    • Apr 2010
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    #2
    Re: Konica 226 or Konica 4052 - worth buying?

    Originally posted by dunno
    Greetings,

    I am searching for most reliable and cost efficient (in terms of service) machine for small number of copies (~3000). Are those 2 models worth their price or should I go for Xerox B1025 for half the price.
    I wouldn't favor getting the 226 (Bizhub 215 series here in the USA).

    Konica 4052's (Lexmark) are ok units for the money. Check the toner prices on that Xerox B1025 and Konica 4052 in your region. Sometimes machines cost less but they more than make up for the low price by charging a lot more for the toner/supplies. So, as a rule, generally it's good pay a bit more for the machine if you can -----choose the machine that costs less to operate.
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    • REGSIS
      Trusted Tech

      250+ Posts
      • May 2016
      • 434

      #3
      Re: Konica 226 or Konica 4052 - worth buying?

      Bizhub 226 in my opinios is more reliable, much cheaper regarding per page cost and also service and parts.

      Cost of toner for bh 4050 are 5x higher (or more)

      At last 226 is A3 machine, 4050 is A4.

      P.S. Soon bizhub 226i will arrive, with new larger LCD display. Maybe worth waiting for. Who knows?

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      • blazebusiness
        SanDiegoCopierRepair.com

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        #4
        Re: Konica 226 or Konica 4052 - worth buying?

        Originally posted by REGSIS
        Bizhub 226 in my opinios is more reliable, much cheaper regarding per page cost and also service and parts.

        Cost of toner for bh 4050 are 5x higher (or more)

        At last 226 is A3 machine, 4050 is A4.

        P.S. Soon bizhub 226i will arrive, with new larger LCD display. Maybe worth waiting for. Who knows?
        A better display certainly might change my recommendation.
        You are correct about the 226 (BH 215) cheaper cost per page. I took care to address that when I stated above:
        "So, as a rule, generally it's good pay a bit more for the machine if you can -----choose the machine that costs less to operate."

        That being said,
        I would not call the 226 very reliable. The model for us has needed more repairs than many other models. And they have not held their value. There are tons of super low mileage units at the wholesalers and they are not selling very well.
        This person is probably just looking for a cheap low volume copier/printer/scanner. The speed and capability and good display of the BH 4052 series would keep them happier.
        Last edited by blazebusiness; 08-23-2019, 09:41 PM.
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        • Toxic
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          • Dec 2009
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          #5
          Re: Konica 226 or Konica 4052 - worth buying?

          My favorite is 226 and i think its ok machine ,never had too much problems with them.
          DR,DV change on every 80k and complete iu assy on 160-200k.
          Recently i retired one 215 with about 700k on counter.
          It is still working but location is far from me and give them new 227 instead.
          Monthly volume was 20-30k without problems for a few years.

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          • dunno
            Junior Member
            • Aug 2019
            • 3

            #6
            Re: Konica 226 or Konica 4052 - worth buying?

            Originally posted by blazebusiness
            This person is probably just looking for a cheap low volume copier/printer/scanner. The speed and capability and good display of the BH 4052 series would keep them happier.
            Well, we are looking for low volume machine, certainly below 2000$, which will last for years, cheap in service. As those Konica models are having mixed reviews, I'm considering also Kyocera ECOSYS models: M2040dn, M3145idn, M3655idn, can you recommend any of those?

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            • Toxic
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              500+ Posts
              • Dec 2009
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              #7
              Re: Konica 226 or Konica 4052 - worth buying?

              I work only with KM so cant recommend any other brand,sorry.

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              • jwai
                Senior Tech

                500+ Posts
                • May 2018
                • 502

                #8
                Re: Konica 226 or Konica 4052 - worth buying?

                However, the 4052 series still have white lines print out easily, same as previous 4050......
                same design toner hopper unit.

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                • copier tech
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                  • Jan 2014
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                  #9
                  Re: Konica 226 or Konica 4052 - worth buying?

                  Originally posted by blazebusiness
                  I wouldn't favor getting the 226 (Bizhub 215 series here in the USA).

                  Konica 4052's (Lexmark) are ok units for the money. Check the toner prices on that Xerox B1025 and Konica 4052 in your region. Sometimes machines cost less but they more than make up for the low price by charging a lot more for the toner/supplies. So, as a rule, generally it's good pay a bit more for the machine if you can -----choose the machine that costs less to operate.

                  Apologies for hijacking the thread but Is the C226/C266 known as any other model in the USA or UK?

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                  • tsbservice
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                    • May 2007
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                    #10
                    Re: Konica 226 or Konica 4052 - worth buying?

                    Originally posted by copier tech
                    Apologies for hijacking the thread but Is the C226/C266 known as any other model in the USA or UK?

                    I don't think so.
                    Looking here Specifications - bizhub C266/C226 | KONICA MINOLTA, I see it like C227, but there should be some differences
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                    • copier tech
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                      • Jan 2014
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                      #11
                      Re: Konica 226 or Konica 4052 - worth buying?

                      Originally posted by tsbservice
                      I don't think so.
                      Looking here Specifications - bizhub C266/C226 | KONICA MINOLTA, I see it like C227, but there should be some differences
                      They look identical same issue with the C281 I dont see any info on this model here in the uk.
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                      • jwai
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                        • May 2018
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                        #12
                        Re: Konica 226 or Konica 4052 - worth buying?

                        Originally posted by tsbservice
                        I don't think so.
                        Looking here Specifications - bizhub C266/C226 | KONICA MINOLTA, I see it like C227, but there should be some differences
                        The C227 supports optional fax and hard disk.

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                        • Bix
                          Service Manager

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                          • Apr 2018
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                          #13
                          Re: Konica 226 or Konica 4052 - worth buying?

                          I've never heard of 226 here in Europe
                          In any case I would opt for 227 (226?). In the event of breakdowns, maintenance is easier. Toner is even cheaper than A4.

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                          • Toxic
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                            • Dec 2009
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                            #14
                            Re: Konica 226 or Konica 4052 - worth buying?

                            Originally posted by Bix
                            I've never heard of 226 here in Europe
                            In any case I would opt for 227 (226?). In the event of breakdowns, maintenance is easier. Toner is even cheaper than A4.
                            I am in Europe too and we have first 215 then 226 and they are very popular,not so expensive,easy to maintain...
                            You mean never sold or work with this machines,strange,i thought Europe have the same center for all countries,i think its in Germany.

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