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  • wjurls
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    Using Bizhub Pro 951 IC Controller on Press 1052

    Anybody have experience cross using an IC Controller from a 951 onto a Press 1052/1250? I have a customer with a failing controller in a 1052. Problem is that I have a plethora of 951 controllers on hand, but no 1052/1250. They are the same unit for both models but use a different firmware set. I tried to connect one to the machine but due to a firmware level mismatch (Image Control 52 vs IC Version 20) I get the C-C136 code. So when I try to update the controller firmware to level 52 (1052/1250 version) I get an ISW error. I just updated the controller to level 52 on a 951 but again, I had to load the 951 version. I'm hoping that maybe by being at level 52 and beyond the C-C136 I can re-flash it to the 1052 version.

    Is there any way to blow out the old firmware to load a virgin instruction set?


    Thanks in advance,

    Lee
  • wjurls
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    Nope! Took it over to our resident 1250 and got a C-C136 and an ISW error (01) trying to update. Think I am screwed.

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    • allan
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      #3
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      Was worth trying.
      There goes the resident 1250 controller?..
      Whatever

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      • wjurls
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        Originally posted by allan
        Was worth trying.
        There goes the resident 1250 controller?..
        Nah, It was safety sitting on top of the machine. User was watching me like a hawk though LOL

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        • methogod
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          i have a fiery i was going to try make work with my 951, never had time before we sold it and upgraded to the 1250.

          if you want it ill let it go from what i have in it....


          msg me.

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          • wjurls
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            Originally posted by methogod
            i have a fiery i was going to try make work with my 951, never had time before we sold it and upgraded to the 1250.

            if you want it ill let it go from what i have in it....


            msg me.
            Awesome thanks. I'm going to attempt to just change the hard drive today and see what happens. If no go expect a PM from me. I have another 1052 here in my shop awaiting a refurb that I can grab a controller from in the interim but would prefer to keep it intact.

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            • tulintron
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              #7
              Re: Using Bizhub Pro 951 IC Controller on Press 1052

              Originally posted by wjurls
              Anybody have experience cross using an IC Controller from a 951 onto a Press 1052/1250? I have a customer with a failing controller in a 1052. Problem is that I have a plethora of 951 controllers on hand, but no 1052/1250. They are the same unit for both models but use a different firmware set. I tried to connect one to the machine but due to a firmware level mismatch (Image Control 52 vs IC Version 20) I get the C-C136 code. So when I try to update the controller firmware to level 52 (1052/1250 version) I get an ISW error. I just updated the controller to level 52 on a 951 but again, I had to load the 951 version. I'm hoping that maybe by being at level 52 and beyond the C-C136 I can re-flash it to the 1052 version.

              Is there any way to blow out the old firmware to load a virgin instruction set?


              Thanks in advance,

              Lee
              1052/1250 are the same

              951 different

              Bios, PostScript and Firmware
              Nothing like day after day

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              • wjurls
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                Re: Using Bizhub Pro 951 IC Controller on Press 1052

                Originally posted by tulintron
                1052/1250 are the same

                951 different

                Bios, PostScript and Firmware
                Same part number but different instruction set. I figure if the hard drive replacement doesn't cure it, I should be able to put the 951 controller in and swap out the EEPROM and/or the NVRAM seen here.


                EEPROM.jpg

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                • allan
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                  Re: Using Bizhub Pro 951 IC Controller on Press 1052

                  What failures are you experiencing on the 1052 in question?
                  Whatever

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                  • methogod
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                    #10
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                    hytec return and repair for $250 ish.

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                    • wjurls
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                      Follow up on this. I went out and just swapped the HDD in the 1052 controller. After that, I decided to re-flash the Controller with level 52 and got an ISW error 19. Ok, so the controller is indeed bad. So I took the NVRAM and EEPROM from the 1052 controller and installed them into the 951 controller. Mounted it to the 1052 and was able to flash the firmware without trouble. So in summary, you can interchange the controllers between the 951 and the 1052/1250 but you must move the NVRAM across first.

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                      • wjurls
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                        Originally posted by allan
                        What failures are you experiencing on the 1052 in question?
                        They would get random controller error messages throughout the day during production.

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