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  • nihmble
    Technician
    • Jan 2012
    • 11

    #1

    KM Bizhub C350 Network Issues when print and scanning

    My machine will not accept a print over the network.
    I have installed, and re-installed the drivers to no avail.
    I can ping it fine.
    I can access it on the web server just fine.
    It is in perfect working order.
    I have had it set for both a fixed IP and DHCP with no difference either way.

    When I send a print, it acts as though everything is perfectly fine.
    The PC sends it and it leaves the que on the PC (Windows 7 Ultimate) just fine.
    It indicates no error in the printing or sending of the que.
    But when I look on the copier it does not show up in the job que.
    It is as if it recieves the information and does nothing with it.
    The data light blinks green on and off.

    I have it set up for TCP raw, directly to the IP and port 9100.
    I have even tried setting the network settings to default and starting from scratch with no joy.

    I have complete administrative control over the whole system. I can log in and out and change anything I need to.

    Where are the print jobs going?

    I have also been unable to get it to send a scan out as an email. It has always done this fine in the past.

    It had always printed over the network fine in the past as well, up until about a year ago.
  • JSC
    Gimp

    500+ Posts
    • Dec 2006
    • 618

    #2
    Re: KM Bizhub C350 Network Issues when print and scanning

    Ok a couple of questions:-

    does the machine have a fiery?
    is the machine set up with pin codes?
    have you tried printing with a lapie direct to the machine with a cross over cable?
    does the data light flash at all when you try printing?
    The gene pool could use a little chlorine.

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    • nihmble
      Technician
      • Jan 2012
      • 11

      #3
      Re: KM Bizhub C350 Network Issues when print and scanning

      Originally posted by JSC
      Ok a couple of questions:-

      does the machine have a fiery?
      is the machine set up with pin codes?
      have you tried printing with a lapie direct to the machine with a cross over cable?
      does the data light flash at all when you try printing?
      Direct with crossover cable gives the same. PINGS fine, I can connect to the web server fine, I can access files I saved in my user box fine., etc)
      The machine is NOT set up with pin codes. At least it never had been and I would not have added them.
      The data light flashed all the time regardless of whether I am printing or not. It even flashed if the Ethernet is disconnected.

      I hit print, it shows it on the PC Print que, it says spooling, sending, and then it leaves the que. But nothing actually happens on the C350.

      I do not believe i have a Fiery, although I can't say for certain because I am not entirely sure what it looks like and where it would go.

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      • Darren King
        copiertech

        500+ Posts
        • Jul 2007
        • 652

        #4
        Re: KM Bizhub C350 Network Issues when print and scanning

        Is it a Post Script/ PCL issue? I'm not sure if the C350 onboard print controller is PCL or PS.

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        • nihmble
          Technician
          • Jan 2012
          • 11

          #5
          Re: KM Bizhub C350 Network Issues when print and scanning

          Originally posted by Darren King
          Is it a Post Script/ PCL issue? I'm not sure if the C350 onboard print controller is PCL or PS.
          There are drivers for both. I have tried both. PCL was what I was using orginally and I know that it have worked with PCL in the past.

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          • JSC
            Gimp

            500+ Posts
            • Dec 2006
            • 618

            #6
            Re: KM Bizhub C350 Network Issues when print and scanning

            It's strange the data light is always flashing........can you get on to the web page of the device? I know you said you have set it to DHCP with no change, but if you unplug it from the network can you still ping it, ie is there something else on the network with the same IP address.

            ps.
            the fiery is a box hanging on the back of the machine that you print to. From memory it will be called a x3e on that machine, but I could be wrong.
            Last edited by JSC; 12-02-2012, 07:59 PM. Reason: Spelling
            The gene pool could use a little chlorine.

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            • EarthKmTech
              Step aside, noob

              1,000+ Posts
              • May 2009
              • 2139

              #7
              Re: KM Bizhub C350 Network Issues when print and scanning

              The internal controller on the archaic c350 does not support PS it talks PCL only. PS was only possible when an external controller was fitted, such as a fiery or a peerless.

              C350 does not officially support windows 7, though, there will be a way of getting it to work for the time left it has before support discontinuation in the first world.

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              • blackcat4866
                Master Of The Obvious

                Site Contributor
                10,000+ Posts
                • Jul 2007
                • 22937

                #8
                Re: KM Bizhub C350 Network Issues when print and scanning

                I didn't hear anything about duplicate IP's yet. When you unplug the MFP, can you still ping the address? If yes, some other network card is snatching up the print job before it can get to the MFP. =^..^=
                If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                • nihmble
                  Technician
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 11

                  #9
                  Re: KM Bizhub C350 Network Issues when print and scanning

                  Originally posted by JSC
                  It's strange the data light is always flashing........can you get on to the web page of the device? I know you said you have set it to DHCP with no change, but if you unplug it from the network can you still ping it, ie is there something else on the network with the same IP address.

                  ps.
                  the fiery is a box hanging on the back of the machine that you print to. From memory it will be called a x3e on that machine, but I could be wrong.

                  I think you missed some of what was said above. But no, there is zero chance that something else on the network has the same IP. Especially if you consider again that

                  A) I was connected directly with a crossover cable.
                  B) I have complete access to the Page Scope webserver of the machine
                  C) I am able to download files from the HD of the machine.

                  There is absolutely nothing wrong with the Ethernet connection. That is the one thing I am certain of is not an issue.

                  There is definitely no Fiery.

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                  • nihmble
                    Technician
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 11

                    #10
                    Re: KM Bizhub C350 Network Issues when print and scanning

                    Originally posted by EarthKmTech
                    The internal controller on the archaic c350 does not support PS it talks PCL only. PS was only possible when an external controller was fitted, such as a fiery or a peerless.

                    C350 does not officially support windows 7, though, there will be a way of getting it to work for the time left it has before support discontinuation in the first world.

                    I am noticing now that I misstyped that it is a C350 when in fact it is a C351.
                    There are indeed Windows 7 drivers available here
                    Support & Drivers Search Results | Product: bizhub C351
                    and both PS and PCL are noted.
                    I am using PCL.

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                    • nihmble
                      Technician
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 11

                      #11
                      Re: KM Bizhub C350 Network Issues when print and scanning

                      Originally posted by blackcat4866
                      I didn't hear anything about duplicate IP's yet. When you unplug the MFP, can you still ping the address? If yes, some other network card is snatching up the print job before it can get to the MFP. =^..^=

                      For the record:

                      Unplug the copier = NO PING
                      Plug in the copier = PING

                      Direct connection with crossover cable.
                      Please trust that it has nothing to do with the Ethernet connection.

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                      • JSC
                        Gimp

                        500+ Posts
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 618

                        #12
                        Re: KM Bizhub C350 Network Issues when print and scanning

                        Originally posted by nihmble
                        For the record:

                        Unplug the copier = NO PING
                        Plug in the copier = PING

                        Direct connection with crossover cable.
                        Please trust that it has nothing to do with the Ethernet connection.
                        For me the next step would be to flash the firmware, and maybe reset the nic, both of which will need a tec.

                        good luck.
                        The gene pool could use a little chlorine.

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                        • EarthKmTech
                          Step aside, noob

                          1,000+ Posts
                          • May 2009
                          • 2139

                          #13
                          Re: KM Bizhub C350 Network Issues when print and scanning

                          yep,

                          now that we actually know what model it is, we can offer a more reasonable solution.

                          IF the NIC configuration has become corrupt on the device there is a special card available to initilize the NIC. Its on the NVRAM recovery card. DO NOT initialize the NVRAM, only the NIC. (at this stage)

                          Not a technician? This conversation ends now, this is not an end user process.

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                          • pepper38_cnd
                            Field Service Manager

                            Site Contributor
                            1,000+ Posts
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 1075

                            #14
                            Re: KM Bizhub C350 Network Issues when print and scanning

                            Your symptoms if I understand is the inability to print / scan and a blinking data light?
                            I will assume this is not the result of a bauched attempt at upgrading firmware or someone poking arround in service mode.
                            So you have probably got a corrupt job on the HDD that keeps trying to spool every time the HDD becomes ready. This could be fax or a print job but more than likely a print job. The solution is to formmat the HDD followed by a Data Clear. Keep in mind anything related to the HDD will be errased and some settings will have to be repreformed after the Data Clear.
                            This could also be the result of a failing HDD if so you may end up with an error code after formatting.
                            If the above solves your problem, to avoid this happening again refrain from trying to print web pages from IE and Win7!
                            Online Store is closed. Chip resetting is a thing of the past! Thank you to all my past customers.
                            Now into Ip TV KODI Boxes

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                            • TheOwl
                              Service Manager

                              Site Contributor
                              1,000+ Posts
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 1732

                              #15
                              Re: KM Bizhub C350 Network Issues when print and scanning

                              Then if all else fails, RAM...
                              Please don't ask me for firmware or service manuals as refusal often offends.

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