4 series b&w with c-9401 scan lamp error.. help

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  • padedwalls
    Technician
    • Dec 2014
    • 40

    4 series b&w with c-9401 scan lamp error.. help

    Firmware up to date! Scan lamp pulled out of home & goes home, illuminates. So lamp ok! Reseated connections on boards. Other causes? Sorry guys, just stepping back to KM after yrs away :-(
  • Mr. Breaker
    Technician
    • Nov 2014
    • 17

    #2
    Re: 4 series b&w with c-9401 scan lamp error.. help

    Two possible causes:
    1) Damage to the CCD flat-cable by the spring plate (V500020069 Clamp, A161N14401 CCD cable);
    2) Select the right type when writing firmware.
    Best Regards,

    Mr. Breaker
    Last edited by Mr. Breaker; 01-05-2015, 10:38 PM.

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    • padedwalls
      Technician
      • Dec 2014
      • 40

      #3
      Re: 4 series b&w with c-9401 scan lamp error.. help

      Originally posted by Mr. Breaker
      Two possible causes:
      1) Damage to the CCD flat-cable by the spring plate (V500020069 Clamp, A161N14401 CCD cable);
      2) Select the right type when writing firmware.
      Best Regards,

      Mr. Breaker
      Felt like I was chasing my tail (getting no where). I was up in the optics checking things then document feeder white reference roller. I kept getting the code until I left document feeder up while cycling power (thought I had already done that) & machine went to ready. Uncertain why it was coding thus disabling scanning!

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      • padedwalls
        Technician
        • Dec 2014
        • 40

        #4
        Re: 4 series b&w with c-9401 scan lamp error.. help

        Originally posted by Mr. Breaker
        Two possible causes:
        1) Damage to the CCD flat-cable by the spring plate (V500020069 Clamp, A161N14401 CCD cable);
        2) Select the right type when writing firmware.
        Best Regards,

        Mr. Breaker
        Felt like I was chasing my tail (getting no where). I was up in the optics checking things then document feeder white reference roller. I kept getting the code until I left document feeder up while cycling power (thought I had already done that) & machine went to ready. Uncertain why it was coding thus disabling scanning!

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        • padedwalls
          Technician
          • Dec 2014
          • 40

          #5
          Re: 4 series b&w with c-9401 scan lamp error.. help

          Came back in for service, assumed it would as its been intermittent. Are those part numbers only relative to european models? Not the numbers I'm finding in my manuals (USA). It's for the black & white 654e. What parts are you speaking of? See attachments

          Assuming scanner lamp error is due to CCD reporting no lamp illumination (though mine is) during white reference checking ????
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          Last edited by padedwalls; 01-07-2015, 02:01 AM. Reason: more to ask

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          • Mr. Breaker
            Technician
            • Nov 2014
            • 17

            #6
            Re: 4 series b&w with c-9401 scan lamp error.. help

            Originally posted by padedwalls
            Came back in for service, assumed it would as its been intermittent. Are those part numbers only relative to european models? Not the numbers I'm finding in my manuals (USA). It's for the black & white 654e. What parts are you speaking of? See attachments

            Assuming scanner lamp error is due to CCD reporting no lamp illumination (though mine is) during white reference checking ????
            Sorry, it turns out, I've given you the wrong information , the information provided is valid for C models (my mistake, sorry for that). The BH654e has another ccd cable...

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            • padedwalls
              Technician
              • Dec 2014
              • 40

              #7
              Re: 4 series b&w with c-9401 scan lamp error.. help

              So the likely cause (if lamp is coming on) of C-9401 is the CCD cable regardless of model?
              You just looked up wrong model's part number?
              I would go assist with KM but I have yet to get my KM tech number supplied to me. I even have problems with my KM tech SSD bouncing me out! Reactivation of my old tech account with KM has not happened without issue. My usual luck :-(

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              • kingarthur
                Service Manager

                1,000+ Posts
                • Feb 2008
                • 1187

                #8
                Re: 4 series b&w with c-9401 scan lamp error.. help

                Its the RADF cable, there's a bulletin for the RADF on the colour m/c, the DF701, which is probably why when you leave the RADF open, you don't get the error code, can't find the bulletin right now, will let you know more if i find it
                Tip for the day; Treat every problem as your dog would.....If you cant eat it or f*ck it....then p*ss on it & walk away...

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                • Mr. Breaker
                  Technician
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 17

                  #9
                  Re: 4 series b&w with c-9401 scan lamp error.. help

                  Originally posted by kingarthur
                  Its the RADF cable, there's a bulletin for the RADF on the colour m/c, the DF701, which is probably why when you leave the RADF open, you don't get the error code, can't find the bulletin right now, will let you know more if i find it

                  My documentation only makes notice of C9403 or C9404, guess C9401, is also possible...

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                  • padedwalls
                    Technician
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 40

                    #10
                    Re: 4 series b&w with c-9401 scan lamp error.. help

                    Ours as well. To the best of my knowledge my code is scanner lamp related not CIS (contact image sensor) in single pass/dual scan ADF. We've yet to see C-9401 issues

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                    • padedwalls
                      Technician
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 40

                      #11
                      Re: 4 series b&w with c-9401 scan lamp error.. help

                      This is a CCD failure. Four have taken place at a major account (diff locations). C9401/02 are "front side" image (scanner... glass) & C9403/04 are "rear side" (ADF CIS). We've had the 03/04 & indeed it's been the cable. Not fun to replace (routing) from what I hear.
                      Thanks for reply!

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