Bad/displaced/out of focus color C451

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  • konica7022
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    • Nov 2008
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    #1

    [CQ] Bad/displaced/out of focus color C451

    hi why does my c451 print like this (printout attached)

    i ran intilization and stablization 3 times already

    swamped Black IU and Transfer belt
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  • ncbabak
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    • Apr 2014
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    #2
    Re: Bad/displaced/out of focus color C451

    Hi , Do you have any P code ?

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    • allan
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      #3
      Re: Bad/displaced/out of focus color C451

      Should get P-14 P-21 P-30 one or a combination of them.
      Whatever

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      • konica7022
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        #4
        Re: Bad/displaced/out of focus color C451

        Originally posted by allan
        Should get P-14 P-21 P-30 one or a combination of them.
        machine is working totaly fine no error codes just the print out is not in sync

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        • Cookr
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          #5
          Re: Bad/displaced/out of focus color C451

          I would try a skew adjustment reset then Initialize + Image Stabilization and run gradations again.

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          • Desert Rat
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            #6
            Re: Bad/displaced/out of focus color C451

            You might also want to run the color registration program if this model has an auto color registration, run that first.
            The P codes will display if you have an oil can icon at the bottom of the screen. It's small and easy to overlook.
            If you don't have the service manuals, I would recommend that you get them. You will need the service manual and the
            field service manual. The field svc manual has the adjustments you will need.

            DR

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            • konica7022
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              #7
              Re: Bad/displaced/out of focus color C451

              Originally posted by Cookr
              I would try a skew adjustment reset then Initialize + Image Stabilization and run gradations again.
              as i mentioned above i tried Initialize + Image Stabilization 3 time already but no difference in print quality
              but i run gradations this time as your advised and it is working great now

              thanks a lot for the advice

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              • konica7022
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                #8
                Re: Bad/displaced/out of focus color C451

                Originally posted by Desert Rat
                You might also want to run the color registration program if this model has an auto color registration, run that first.
                The P codes will display if you have an oil can icon at the bottom of the screen. It's small and easy to overlook.
                If you don't have the service manuals, I would recommend that you get them. You will need the service manual and the
                field service manual. The field svc manual has the adjustments you will need.

                DR
                after running gradations the color seems to be coming good now ;

                lol your are right i noticed the small tiny oil can (what does that mean do i need to oil the machine now) but i still have no p codes

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                • konica7022
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                  #9
                  Re: Bad/displaced/out of focus color C451

                  i think i download the field service manual some where last year.. will look for it !..


                  i have another question i have 3 c451's
                  the heater has two roller (brown color) can i swap one roller from the other machine as it is damaged!

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                  • habik
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                    #10
                    Re: Bad/displaced/out of focus color C451

                    The Oil can is explained in Service Manual in detail, but in short it means Maintenance, which could be to clean, lube, oil, change parts or do adjustments. If certain firmware is loaded it will remain constantly there even without any P codes. To get rid of it you'd have to replace consumables. Iu's transfer belt fuser.


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                    • habik
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                      #11
                      Re: Bad/displaced/out of focus color C451

                      Originally posted by konica7022
                      i think i download the field service manual some where last year.. will look for it !..


                      i have another question i have 3 c451's
                      the heater has two roller (brown color) can i swap one roller from the other machine as it is damaged!
                      You can try to replace it! Just watch out and don't bend or damage anything! Good luck.


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                      • Desert Rat
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                        #12
                        Re: Bad/displaced/out of focus color C451

                        I have wanted to see if I could replace the rollers also. If it does not go well you can call HYTech services. They may have a have a re-built
                        in stock.

                        1-888-883-2001

                        Good luck let us know how you make out

                        DR

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