bizhub 423 with a fs 527 have a c1183 code

[brent]

the machine just will not fire up. the manual says elevator sensors in the fs 527
the konica minolta website does not have any bulletins on this.
anybody have any thoughts on this code?

thanks
brent

[TheOwl]

Re: bizhub 423 with a fs 527 have a c1183 code

[Product Name]	bizhub C220 bizhub C280 bizhub C360 bizhub C452
[Option]	FS-527
[Subject]	FS-527, C1183
[Description]

C1183 when removing copies from the main exit tray.

[TR] [TD="class: DETAIL_TAD_CAPTION, width: 18%, align: right"][Solution]

The lever of the original actuator 2 was too short by 1.6mm. The modified actuator is 1.6mm longer. Please order the modified actuator (A0HR897300) and replace it. note: The partnumber is the same as the old type. From Serial No.: A0HRWY1016166 and onwards. (16th November, 2009) the finishers have been modified from the factory. Please see attachment for identification of the "old" and "new" type of actuator. Note that the "old" type has a flat edge while the "new" type has a curved edge. Tip: It is advisable to put a smal (pen) mark on the label of the finisher serial number since it is difficult to see if the actuator has been modified.

[TheOwl]

Re: bizhub 423 with a fs 527 have a c1183 code

[Product Name]	bizhub C203 bizhub C253 bizhub C353 bizhub C353P bizhub C451
[Option]	MT-502, SD-505, OT-602, FS-519
[Subject]	FS-519, C1183.
[Description]

FS-519, C1183 (C-1183) error code (may be intermittent).

[TR] [TD="class: DETAIL_TAD_CAPTION, width: 18%, align: right"][Solution]

[TheOwl]

Re: bizhub 423 with a fs 527 have a c1183 code

Different models of engine, but well worth looking at.

[EarthKmTech]

Re: bizhub 423 with a fs 527 have a c1183 code

I've no idea how anyone who's sold FS-527's doesn't know about this already

PS, it happens with the new actuators too - I can change blind folded with 1 arm tied behind my back now.

When its an already updated version I change the photo-interuptor at the same time as the actuator and in general it never returns again for the same issue.

If the output tray has crashed into something and is no longer level the fault will return - this must be corrected.

[Product Name]	bizhub C220 bizhub C280 bizhub C360 bizhub C452
[Option]	FS-527
[Subject]	FS-527, C1183
[Description]

C1183 when removing copies from the main exit tray.

[TR] [TD="class: DETAIL_TAD_CAPTION, width: 18%, align: right"][Solution]

The lever of the original actuator 2 was too short by 1.6mm. The modified actuator is 1.6mm longer. Please order the modified actuator (A0HR897300) and replace it. note: The partnumber is the same as the old type. From Serial No.: A0HRWY1016166 and onwards. (16th November, 2009) the finishers have been modified from the factory. Please see attachment for identification of the "old" and "new" type of actuator. Note that the "old" type has a flat edge while the "new" type has a curved edge. Tip: It is advisable to put a smal (pen) mark on the label of the finisher serial number since it is difficult to see if the actuator has been modified.

[blackcat4866]

Re: bizhub 423 with a fs 527 have a c1183 code

Last week I came across gear 18T shattered, I'm not sure why. Maybe the actuator?

The tray was jammed at the top of its travel. When I removed the shattered bits of gear it resumed function (I guess there is enough gear left).

You'll need to perform a trouble reset. =^..^=

[brent]

Re: bizhub 423 with a fs 527 have a c1183 code

pearth. I only have 2 of these finishers in the field. before you start..

have not had any problems with these to this point.

I am going to address this machine today.

thank you!

[mo0651]

Re: bizhub 423 with a fs 527 have a c1183 code

Actuator was caught by the tray, it got bent somehow. we reformed it. Then ordered a new one just in case.

[brent]

Re: bizhub 423 with a fs 527 have a c1183 code

I had a bad crazy busy day. I did download the parts manual.
but are we talking the sensor. the exit sensor and actuator for the top tray?

sorry if I sound dumb. I just havent had time to sit down and digest what
you guys posted here yet. thanks

brent

[Avskrap]

Re: bizhub 423 with a fs 527 have a c1183 code

These are the actuators that the tray hits, causing the code. The one I circled in red I've seen snap several times, but it can be glued back. It's quite a hassle getting to this assembly, but it's quite easy once you figure out the angles of attack. The shaft that these actuators are mounted on is usually bent, banana style, just align it, along with bending the sensor mounting plate upwards about 1-2 mm.

Good luck!

[brent]

Re: bizhub 423 with a fs 527 have a c1183 code

I wish I could see the diagram you sent.
thanks. I am headed to work. gotta
get it done today

brent

[brent]

Re: bizhub 423 with a fs 527 have a c1183 code

wow that actuator if it is the long one. is really tight in the machine.
I would love for the guy to come replace it with one hand behind his back.. lol althogh
I do believe he can. question. now that I am in the finisher arms deep. how much
dissasembly is required to get that actuator out? don't know if my hands a are too big
or my brain is too small. but Im having a hell of a time. it seems the actuator has came
out of the side pivots.
thanks for all the imput guy's. much appreciated
brent

[emujo]

Re: bizhub 423 with a fs 527 have a c1183 code

If you remove the jogging motor (inside and behind the lower panel) you moght have enough room to get a hand up there to fix the sensor..If not you need to take out the same motor, then the lower panel..not that difficult after you do it once. Emujo

[brent]

Re: bizhub 423 with a fs 527 have a c1183 code

I see the sensor. it will suck. but it wont be that bad. the actuator is another story. it seems very hard to remove. then to get it back into those 2 side brackets. one thing I did notice is that the actuator seemed ok. even though I am going to order the new ones. but it has popped out of those side brackets and away from the sensor on the bottom. so that sensor was not blocked. and the machine must have threw a code from the elevator not going up all the way. or too high.

brent

[brent]

Re: bizhub 423 with a fs 527 have a c1183 code

I was wondering if someone would explain the procedure on replacing this new actuator. I got all the other things fixed. not it is time to work on this one again. I did flip through the service manual. how much dissasembly is required to acheive this task? I am asking for assistance. please?

thanks for your consideration

brent