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  • atech
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    50+ Posts
    • Aug 2010
    • 89

    #1

    CANON IR 2018 no copy but self print okay

    Good day,Guys.. I troubleshoot one unit canon IR 2018 for almost one week now, the problem is that there is no image if you make a copy either from adf or in platten, but if I make a test print,the quality of copy is good,I replace already the main board,and almost all the circuit board but the problem is the same,anybody have an idea about this, I need your help guys. thanks a lot
  • teckat
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    • Jan 2010
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    #2
    Originally posted by atech
    Good day,Guys.. I troubleshoot one unit canon IR 2018 for almost one week now, the problem is that there is no image if you make a copy either from adf or in platten, but if I make a test print,the quality of copy is good,I replace already the main board,and almost all the circuit board but the problem is the same,anybody have an idea about this, I need your help guys. thanks a lot

    what about Error codes??
    Did u check your- Contact image sensor (CIS)
    - Check whether the optical system (contact sensor/white panel/copyboard glass) is free from scratches, stain, foreign objects.
    - Check whether the contact sensor unit moves smoothly. Check whether the rails are free from dirt.
    - Check whether the contact sensor is not flickering.
    - Check whether the optical system is free from dew condensation.
    Is the Carriage moving

    <Service Mode>
    - Check whether various adjustment values are the same as those printed on the service label.
    - Check whether the output between CIS channels has been corrected.
    (Service mode>TEST MODE>"2"(SCANTEST)>"1")
    - Check whether the read position has been adjusted properly. (Stream reading: Only when the ADF is installed)
    (Service mode>TEST MODE>"2"(SCANTEST)>"3"(SHEET POS ADJ))
    - Check whether the error has been cleared.
    (Service mode>CLEAR>ERR



    imageProcessor PCB

    Controls system operation, memory, printer unit output, image
    processing, printer unit image input processing, card printer
    unit interface, fax image
    processing, etc.

    Pcb. controls two part processing = READER & PRINTER

    IMP.JPG
    Blank copies are occurring from the glass and feeder. Internal test prints and print jobs are fine.

    Check or replace image processor PCB = FM3-3320-000-iR2018/2022/2022N
    for FM3-3319-000-iR2022K/2022i/2025/2025i/2030/2030i/2018i
    ******
    After replacing the image processor PCB with a new one, input the all value
    printed on the service label affixed to the rear cover.

    Make the following adjustments:
    - Correction of output between CIS channels
    1) Enter the service mode.
    Sequentially press the User Mode key " ", 2 key, 8 key, and User Mode
    key " " on the operation panel.
    2) Using the arrow keys on the operation panel, display "TEST MODE".
    3) Press the OK key.
    4) Press the 2 key. "SCAN TEST" appears.
    5) Press the 1 key.
    After completion of the above steps, contact sensor output correction will be
    performed and parameters will be set automatically.
    - Read position adjustment (Stream reading: Only when the ADF is installed)
    1) Enter the service mode.
    Press the User Mode key " ", 2 key, 8 key, User Mode key " " on the
    operation panel of the host machine.
    2) Using the arrow keys on the operation panel, display "TEST MODE".
    3) Press the OK key.
    4) Press the 2 key. "SCAN TEST" appears.
    5) Press the 3 key. "SHEET POS ADJ" appears.
    The optical system starts scanning. Several seconds later, automatic adjustment
    of the reading position finishes and "OK" appears.
    If automatic adjustment fails, "NG" appears. Perform the following procedure:
    Clean the white roller of the DADF and the document glass of the host machine,
    and then retry auto adjustment.
    Last edited by teckat; 08-31-2010, 12:55 AM.
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    • VavilonXX

      #3
      I have the same problem.
      Nothing helped.Blank copy,but self print is OK.When mashine start scanner cant see its home posision.Grinding for about 10 sec.and go READY.There is no error on dysplay.
      Exchanged:
      1.READER CONTROLLER PCB FM2-4792-000
      2.DC CONTROLLER PCB ASSEMBLYFM3-2992-000
      3.IMAGE PROCESSOR PCB ASS'Y FM3-3320-000
      4.PHOTO INTERRUPTER, TLP1243 WG8-5696-000
      I take from other ir2018 scan matrix

      Still have problem.If anybody can help?Please.

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      • teckat
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        • Jan 2010
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        #4
        Originally posted by VavilonXX
        I have the same problem.
        Nothing helped.Blank copy,but self print is OK.When mashine start scanner cant see its home posision.Grinding for about 10 sec.and go READY.There is no error on dysplay.
        Exchanged:
        1.READER CONTROLLER PCB FM2-4792-000
        2.DC CONTROLLER PCB ASSEMBLYFM3-2992-000
        3.IMAGE PROCESSOR PCB ASS'Y FM3-3320-000
        4.PHOTO INTERRUPTER, TLP1243 WG8-5696-000
        I take from other ir2018 scan matrix

        Still have problem.If anybody can help?Please.



        when u open ADF and hit the print button u are saying Scanner does not move or see Home Position -
        & u hear Grinding noise/
        if u pull Scanner all the way over to the right/ then hit print button- what happens ??

        if that Scanner does not move either way after button is pressed and noise is present / u have a clock pulse voltage issue with MOTOR
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        • teckat
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          #5
          Originally posted by VavilonXX
          I have the same problem.
          Nothing helped.Blank copy,but self print is OK.When mashine start scanner cant see its home posision.Grinding for about 10 sec.and go READY.There is no error on dysplay.
          Exchanged:
          1.READER CONTROLLER PCB FM2-4792-000
          2.DC CONTROLLER PCB ASSEMBLYFM3-2992-000
          3.IMAGE PROCESSOR PCB ASS'Y FM3-3320-000
          4.PHOTO INTERRUPTER, TLP1243 WG8-5696-000
          I take from other ir2018 scan matrix

          Still have problem.If anybody can help?Please.

          Things u need to check are the Cables & Motor
          have u checked the supply voltage to the Motor ????????????
          Stepping Motors make noise when bad or low voltage supply>>>>

          1.FK2-1066-020
          1 MOTOR, STEPPING M401 J458

          2.FM2-4423-020
          1 CABLE, READER MOTOR

          3.FK2-1061-000
          1 CABLE, FLAT, READER
          FM2-4422-000
          1 CABLE, READER CONTROLLER

          4.FM2-4418-000
          1 CABLE, READER CONTROLLER
          FM2-4419-000
          1 CABLE, READER CONTROLLER 2
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          • VavilonXX

            #6
            This ir2018 is without ADF.
            When copier is switch on scanner start moving normal and go to left but do not stop to the home position and start grinding.
            After about 10sec. grinding noise stop and mashine go to ""ready" state.
            You can printing from menu normal.When attemp to copy scanner starts, go to about half sheet and goes again to home but again cant see it and grinding.The scaned result is blank sheet.
            In my opinion scan motor is working well but dont stop when is needed.
            I allready check motor on another ir2018 and its OK
            Flat cabel conecting scan matrix to the image reader is OK too.

            I notised(on working ir2018) when disconect PHOTO INTERRUPTER, TLP1243 WG8-5696-000
            (its only one there under the glas) scanner start mouving to the righ (when initialising) and start grinding when go to the end.
            On mashine with problem its the same -conected or not PHOTO INTERRUPTER scanner start go to left and grinding.

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            • teckat
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              • Jan 2010
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              #7

              If u swapped motors/ what about the cable from reader pcb that goes to motor
              do u have a circuit diagram to check voltage to motor signal/

              if u have a Fax Board connected/ disconnect and see what happens


              a voltage drop to motor will cause a stepping motor to make noise

              does that lamp go on when scanner moves out of HP
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              • VavilonXX

                #8
                The problem was in
                FK2-5356-000 POWER SUPPLY ASS'Y
                When I changed it the problem is disappear.
                Thank you for help teckat.
                I will use your forum in the future.

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                • teckat
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by VavilonXX
                  The problem was in
                  FK2-5356-000 POWER SUPPLY ASS'Y
                  When I changed it the problem is disappear.
                  Thank you for help teckat.
                  I will use your forum in the future.


                  Thanks, good find/ lack of proper voltage supply to motor

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                  • tones27
                    Technician
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 18

                    #10
                    Re: CANON IR 2018 no copy but self print okay

                    hey guys im kinda late on this thred but i have a ir 2022i that is giving me the same problem the first thing i did was replace the image processor pcb then updated the system softwareto the latest one after that i keep getting this E247 constantly but if i put back in the old pcb board i get no error but the problem still remains the same i can print but no copy or scan can you guys point me in the right direction plz thanks in advance

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                    • teckat
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                      #11
                      Re: CANON IR 2018 no copy but self print okay

                      READ PDF--ERRORS-E245, E246, E247, E354 and E355-TP05.pdf

                      E247=Counter Memory PCB ISSUE/Error in SRAM on Main Controller PCB and Counter Memory PCB.

                      E245, E246, E247, E354 and E355
                      These are error codes not found in service materials that when encountered can be difficult to troubleshoot.

                      An error has been detected in the result of verifying the soft counter reading stored on the Counter Memory PCB and SRAM

                      Hope u have not been swapping pcb's
                      The Counter Memory PCB is a matched board with the Serial Number PCB and cannot be swapped with one from any other equipment. Doing so may change the error code and will not correct the problem and will certainly add to confusion, thus increasing downtime.

                      If replacing the Counter Memory PCB does not fix an E245, E246 or E247 code, suspect a failed Main
                      Controller PCB (put back the original Counter Memory PCB when replacing the Main Controller
                      PCB).
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                      • tones27
                        Technician
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 18

                        #12
                        Re: CANON IR 2018 no copy but self print okay

                        I took all the parts off the old image processor pcb and put it on the new image processor pcb that is when i started getting the e247 error but if i put the old one back in it comes up but still copies blank but will print fine im kinda lost now and not sure what to do in this case any other suggestions

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