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    Thanks Hans. I'll give this BootP Utility a try out.
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    I haven't had much time to experiment, but so far limited success.

    The BootP utility did not change the IP address on my test machine (Copystar CS-8030). BootP was enabled on the web interface. I'm assuming that hardware address indicates MAC address of the printer, which I entered as it appeared on the ser# plate 00:C0:12... etc. Several tries with the 32 bit version and then the 16 bit version, no luck. (XP 32-bit server)

    Wireshark captured all kinds of data. Too much data. I suspect that my mistake is that left the printer on the network, and that I was gathering all the network traffic. Next time I'll connect with a crossover directly to the printer. That should cut down on the extranneous data.

    More later. =^..^=
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    Something I do to over come this sort of problem from the get go is to use DHCP on all copier / printers and then set a DHCP reservation on their DHCP server.

    All that is required is the DHCP is enabled on the device and the MAC address. From there, set a reservation and then turn the device off / on.

    If you then ever need to change the IP address of the device, you just change the reservation and power cycle the equipment.

    This might not help your current situation (or maybe it will) but it is handy to know.
    Please don't ask me for firmware or service manuals as refusal often offends.

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    Next time I'll connect with a crossover directly to the printer. That should cut down on the extranneous data.
    Forgot to tell you: I exclusively use the cross-over cable with my laptop for setting up IP adresses and/or firmware loading of equipment. Too often found that the LAN with its switches, routers and the Lord knows what else is causing problems. I prefer the direct way, Laptop-MFP, nothing else inbetween. Before using BootP try resetting the MFP's NIC to factory defaults first.

    Here's a good description one of our colleagues once wrote for using the arp-command as an alternative:

    "You may be able to use the ARP command to manually assign an address to the controller. Make sure the controller is physically connected to the network, and then at a Windows command prompt, type:

    arp -s 157.55.85.212 00-aa-00-62-c6-09

    (Assuming the IP address you want to program is 157.55.85.212, and that the MAC address of the controller is 00:AA:00:62:C6:09.)

    Replace the example entry with whatever the controller's MAC address is, but note that you should separate the octets with hyphens ( - ) instead of colons ( : ).

    The command will complete silently, you will not get a report or anything. Wait at least a minute, then reboot the controller. The new address should stick. "

    Also here I think its crucial to use the cross-over cable.

    Hans

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    I did not re-try BootP today. But better luck with Wireshark. With the crossover cable, on printer powerup I got four entries in red identifying the IP and the printer model (in this case CLX-3160). I expected to see a MAC address but none recorded.

    Thanks for the details on the arp -s command. More experimentation later. =^..^=
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    Hi, Blackcat,

    Yer almost there

    Now that you have the printer's IP,

    Arp -a <ip address> will show you the mac address of the printer.

    Example: arp -a 192.168.1.150
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    Question I'm not feeling so brilliant just now.

    My victim today was a CS-2560 connected via crossover cable, with the laptop set to a similar IP range.

    Experiment #1: With Wireshark running I sent out the arp -s command as specified: JSmith>arp -s 192.168.0.20 00-C0-EE-1C-EF-9D then Enter.
    Nothing shows on Wireshark. After 2 minutes I powered the printer Off/On. Wireshark picked up the old IP address. I tried this with DHCP/BOOTP (they enable both with the same switch) both Off and On. No luck.

    Experiment #2: With Wireshark running, I fired up BootP Lite, filled in the lines as specified (the MAC address only works with colons), then OK. Wireshark picked up an ARP request from my PC "What is 192.168.0.1?" (which is the gateway) three times then nothing else. Next I powered the printer Off/On. The printers IP address did not change. I tried this with DHCP/BOOTP both Off and On. Again Wireshark picked up only the old address.

    Experiment #3: With Wireshark running I sent out the arp -a command as specified: JSmith>arp -a 192.168.0.10 then Enter.
    Nothing shows on Wireshark. Command prompt shows "No ARP found."

    These commands/utilities sound so simple. How could I be screwing this up? =^..^=
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    When you did experiment #1 did you try the ip in internet explorer?
    With the ARP command, you are just adding an entry in your local computer not really changing anything on the printer. After you add the entry to the ARP table you should be able to bring up the web interface with IE or Firefox.
    ARP table is very similar to editing the hosts file. You sort of trick your computer to seeing that MAC address as the IP you gave it, not the one setup in the printer itself.



    On a side note, just in case anyone is curious, you can block websites by editing the C:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts. Add an entry such as, "127.0.0.1 www.trojans4you.com" to block that site. Sorry, if you already knew this.

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    Thanks DLP. I'm beginning to understand.

    Does anyone have a good written explanation of the typical command prompts? I'll see what Google finds... =^..^=
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    I had the perfect opportunity to try out my new toys.

    Samsung CLP-600N with a yellow toner empty LED. Won't print so I can't get the IP from the config page. I fired up Wireshark then the printer. Wireshark identified 192.0.0.192 (typical Samsung default IP). With the laptop set to the appropriate IP range, I could access the web interface via IE. From here I can access or change anything I need to.

    But I still can't print without toner. That's probably why the printer is in here.

    By the way, I found a website with a great beginners guide to command line. See: Beginners Guides: WindowsXP Command Prompt - PCSTATS.com
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