Jamming in Solenoid (SD4) Minolta C6501

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  • Andre Luis dos Santos
    Technician
    • May 2016
    • 23

    #1

    [Jamming] Jamming in Solenoid (SD4) Minolta C6501

    Good day Guys, I have a problem with my Minolta 6501, within the technical panel, I tested I / check 80-0 referring to the solenoid (Paper Exit Solenoid (SD4)), this is not said.


    I've done the test of fusion sensors, and are ok.


    But when sends a message front and back, the SD4 solenoid does not operate.


    Has anyone got this problem?

    The following photos in attached
  • Synthohol
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    • Mar 2016
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    #2
    Re: Jamming in Solenoid (SD4) Minolta C6501

    What is the jam code?
    Also no photos were successfully attached.
    We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
    The medication helps though...

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    • Andre Luis dos Santos
      Technician
      • May 2016
      • 23

      #3
      Re: Jamming in Solenoid (SD4) Minolta C6501

      Originally posted by Synthohol
      What is the jam code?
      Also no photos were successfully attached.

      There is no code, there is a message showing how to make the jam. Just know it's Solenoid (SD4) because he does not reply in I / O mode, and watching the machine work I realized that he does not act. The sheet passes directly by the output of the merger without entering the ADU, thus giving a jam message without code.

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      • Andre Luis dos Santos
        Technician
        • May 2016
        • 23

        #4
        Re: Jamming in Solenoid (SD4) Minolta C6501

        Originally posted by Andre Luis dos Santos
        There is no code, there is a message showing how to make the jam. Just know it's Solenoid (SD4) because he does not reply in I / O mode, and watching the machine work I realized that he does not act. The sheet passes directly by the output of the merger without entering the ADU, thus giving a jam message without code.

        attached images : https://we.tl/lbxjVJ0eYd

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        • Synthohol
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          Re: Jamming in Solenoid (SD4) Minolta C6501

          please go into service mode under system settings i think and enable software sw 11-7 to 1 for jam code to show on screen when it happens.
          We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
          The medication helps though...

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          • Andre Luis dos Santos
            Technician
            • May 2016
            • 23

            #6
            Re: Jamming in Solenoid (SD4) Minolta C6501

            Originally posted by Synthohol
            please go into service mode under system settings i think and enable software sw 11-7 to 1 for jam code to show on screen when it happens.


            Thank you. I have activated the Dipsw 11-7 , and the copier launched J32-02 error.Any tips ?
            Thank you. I have activated the Dipsw 11-7 , and the copier launched J32-02 error.Any tips ?

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            • Synthohol
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              Re: Jamming in Solenoid (SD4) Minolta C6501

              After the fusing paper exit sensor
              (PS17) is turned ON, reverse/exit sensor (PS19) is not turned ON within the
              specified time.
              fuser.jpg
              how is your decurler roller?

              We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
              The medication helps though...

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              • Andre Luis dos Santos
                Technician
                • May 2016
                • 23

                #8
                Re: Jamming in Solenoid (SD4) Minolta C6501

                Originally posted by Synthohol
                After the fusing paper exit sensor
                (PS17) is turned ON, reverse/exit sensor (PS19) is not turned ON within the
                specified time.
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                how is your decurler roller?




                Regarding the I / O check mode does not respond to command 80-00 relating to Solenoid SD4 , is this normal?I will carry out the test sensor PS19 and PS17


                Regarding the I / O check mode does not respond to command 80-00 relating to Solenoid SD4 , is this normal?I will carry out the test sensor PS19

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                • Andre Luis dos Santos
                  Technician
                  • May 2016
                  • 23

                  #9
                  Re: Jamming in Solenoid (SD4) Minolta C6501

                  I tested the sensors ( PS17 ) ( PS19 ) the two are working. But I realized that the Solenoid that is in your is not the original , it has a different serial number of this ( 65AAR70400 ) , and I lost the original solenoid years ago , but never ran Duplex. It may be the solenoid ?

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                  • Synthohol
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                    Re: Jamming in Solenoid (SD4) Minolta C6501

                    you may be able to check it with a meter when you operate the IO mode. if its getting the juice then its the solenoid, if not it may be the ADU board. ive seen both.
                    Last edited by Synthohol; 05-10-2016, 10:34 PM.
                    We know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two.
                    The medication helps though...

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                    • Andre Luis dos Santos
                      Technician
                      • May 2016
                      • 23

                      #11
                      Re: Jamming in Solenoid (SD4) Minolta C6501

                      Originally posted by Synthohol
                      you may be able to check it with a meter when you operate the IO mode. if its getting the juice then its the solenoid, if not it mat be the ADU board. ive seen both.


                      I've been researching and found something related to ICP 8 , I performed the measurement of icp and it consisted fault , I want to change the ICP , but not against it. Can I exchange one of these two with different values ​​?

                      https://we.tl/M3Yvqo8nEv

                      I've been researching and found something related to ICP 8 , I performed the measurement of icp and it consisted fault , I want to change the ICP , but not against it. Can I exchange one of these two with different values ​​?

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                      • habik
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                        • Apr 2010
                        • 2013

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                        Re: Jamming in Solenoid (SD4) Minolta C6501

                        Originally posted by Andre Luis dos Santos
                        I've been researching and found something related to ICP 8 , I performed the measurement of icp and it consisted fault , I want to change the ICP , but not against it. Can I exchange one of these two with different values ​​?

                        https://we.tl/M3Yvqo8nEv

                        I've been researching and found something related to ICP 8 , I performed the measurement of icp and it consisted fault , I want to change the ICP , but not against it. Can I exchange one of these two with different values ​​?

                        Measure the impedance of the solenoid. Try for shorts of cables only against the ground (unplugged from board and solenoid). Then measure cables against the ground with solenoid conected only with cables (unplugged from board). If the fuse blew, there is a reason. I think the solednoid is shot, but only you can measure it. Check impedance with similar solenoids in machine. Hope this helps.

                        Off topic: Try lowering your phone or camera resolution (web size settings, perhaps ?)so it can be uploaded within the message. Good luck.
                        .OK Google! ... will I need Berrocca this morning?
                        Firmwares HERE

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                        • Andre Luis dos Santos
                          Technician
                          • May 2016
                          • 23

                          #13
                          Re: Jamming in Solenoid (SD4) Minolta C6501

                          Can someone please tell me what amperage mA Solenoid SD4 of 6501 ?
                          Can someone please tell me what amperage mA Solenoid SD4 of 6501 ?

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                          • habik
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                            • Apr 2010
                            • 2013

                            #14
                            Re: Jamming in Solenoid (SD4) Minolta C6501

                            Hope this helps
                            BTW on the board it says T2000 for that SMD ICP 8 fuse.

                            Check that solenoid FIRST, then fit the fuse.



                            ICP8 DC35VP11CT2000
                            so my guess is(2000mA)
                            24V1 ADU, Paper exit SD
                            ADU pre registration CL
                            ADU middle conveyance CL1,2,3
                            J32-02(duplex only)
                            .OK Google! ... will I need Berrocca this morning?
                            Firmwares HERE

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                            • Andre Luis dos Santos
                              Technician
                              • May 2016
                              • 23

                              #15
                              Re: Jamming in Solenoid (SD4) Minolta C6501

                              Testing the board ICPS , I noticed that everyone was equal to "1" , but ICP 8 referring to the solenoid brand " 142, 143 " in the Multimeter .I believe it is problem in ICP , because I had problems like this and changing the icp worked. But in this case I have no icp 2000mA to change , I have only 2500 mA . Any suggestion?
                              Testing the board ICPS , I noticed that everyone was equal to "1" , but ICP 8 referring to the solenoid is equal to " 142, 143 "I believe it is problem in ICP , because I had problems like this and changing the icp worked. But in this case I have no icp 2000mA to change , I have only 2500 mA . Any suggestion?

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