What's wrong with the touch screens?

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  • largo
    Technician
    • Feb 2009
    • 30

    #1

    What's wrong with the touch screens?

    in field we have to replace all touch screens of these models Aficio 3025/3030 DSm725/730 LD225/230Aficio MP 2510/3010 Aficio 3035/3045 DSm735/745 LD235/245Aficio MP 3500/4500Aficio 3224C/3232C DSc424/432 LD124c/132cHQ7000 CP6334HQ9000 CP6346DX4640PD DX4640PDAficio MPC 2000/2500/3000Aficio MPC 3500/4500Aficio MPW 2400Aficio MPW 3600Aficio MPC 2800/3300Aficio MPC 4000/5000Aficio MPW 5100Aficio MPW 7140


    anyone any explanation?

    greetzz
    greetz
  • unisys12
    Trusted Tech

    250+ Posts
    • Jul 2007
    • 490

    #2
    The TSB explained that there was a problem with the connector.
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    • TonerMunkeh
      Professional Moron

      2,500+ Posts
      • Apr 2008
      • 3865

      #3
      There's been a fault with touch screens on a few models. I've mainly seen them either way out of alignment or fail altogether. Mostly Adonis C4's too.
      It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

      Hit it.

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      • Dave Ireland

        #4
        Many models of Ricoh touchscreens have a defect-Ricoh is sending out replacements,list of models,& instructions.

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        • paulg
          Trusted Tech

          250+ Posts
          • Jun 2007
          • 278

          #5
          Well on the Tessa tier 2 knowledge base

          it says the cause is

          The adhesive that binds electrodes to the touch panel surface contains a polymer that tends to expand under normal office environmental conditions.

          Lists a whole load of models with serial cut out with the possible defect.

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          • AV8R
            Lurker
            • May 2008
            • 12

            #6
            It's amazing that they are all failing at the same time. I can't get the screens fast enough to keep up.

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            • Vulkor
              Senior Tech

              500+ Posts
              • Jun 2009
              • 942

              #7
              We are lucky in Texas. Only had maybe 3-4 fail so far.

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              • Froota
                Field service tech.

                100+ Posts
                • Apr 2008
                • 129

                #8
                Originally posted by AV8R
                It's amazing that they are all failing at the same time. I can't get the screens fast enough to keep up.
                Here the same problem!
                most on af3224c....

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                • Ralph S

                  #9
                  We were shipped enough of these to cover our population and the techs are replacing them as they do regular service calls or if they fail before that of course. We got 6 boxes of them for the different models.

                  The sub manufacturer is probably taking it in the shorts for this issue.

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                  • largo
                    Technician
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 30

                    #10
                    do you know what I think?

                    It's like other products they taking back (cars, toys,...)
                    not because of a little mistake,....

                    but when they do this it's all because off safty reasons!!!!


                    why should we do all touch screens preventifly now and not the only ones who are realy defective (1/100)?


                    who agrees?
                    greetz

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                    • blackcat4866
                      Master Of The Obvious

                      Site Contributor
                      10,000+ Posts
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 22927

                      #11
                      Can't speak to Ricoh, but...

                      Kyocera has had a few batches of bad displays. The official explanation is that the conductive adhesive that adheres the ribbon cable to the face develops resistance/loses connection. It wouldn't surprise me if they used the same supplier of touch displays as Ricoh. =^..^=
                      If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                      1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                      2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                      3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                      4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                      5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                      blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                      • Lagonda
                        Service Manager

                        Site Contributor
                        1,000+ Posts
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 1649

                        #12
                        I was having a moan about this back in December 08 and no body in the northen hemisphere seemed to have much of a problem with it. Its the end of winter here now and the field techs arn't going through as many as they were in summer. Perhaps its heat related?
                        At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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                        • zyqwiz
                          Trusted Tech

                          250+ Posts
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 333

                          #13
                          We had a couple when it was hot the other month. Luckily an English summer only lasts a week.

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                          • wings
                            Technician
                            • May 2008
                            • 12

                            #14
                            Here in Holland we had a lot of 424's that stoped working or had wrong location of the fields, callibration helped for only one week.

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                            • paulg
                              Trusted Tech

                              250+ Posts
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 278

                              #15
                              Originally posted by largo
                              do you know what I think?

                              It's like other products they taking back (cars, toys,...)
                              not because of a little mistake,....

                              but when they do this it's all because off safty reasons!!!!


                              why should we do all touch screens preventifly now and not the only ones who are realy defective (1/100)?


                              who agrees?
                              Annoying to have to do and of course can course a lot of problems if you go in for a paperjam and start fiddling with the op pannels many will be like
                              But as the replacments i belive for ricoh europe cost 1 cent at present and prevention is better than fighting fires in the majority of cases. Its probably for the best.

                              The problem in the UK did seem to go though the roof as other Brits mentioned in the "summer" all one week of it

                              So during the busy period for many copier companies ie after the summer break sept/oct if its fairly warm as sometimes happens or the heating is switched on automatically or to test for the winter as many workplaces do i have noticed causing one off freakish issues. I guess there will be another big wave of my touchscreen doesn't work calls.

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