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  • Cookr
    Trusted Tech

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    • Dec 2011
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    #1

    Just wondering

    OK. I primarily work on KM but I also work on some Sharps and Muratec (KM), but I may have a better job opportunity coming up and they work on Cannons and Kyocera which I have little to no experience with so I am just wondering what you guys think about those machines in general. Better? worse? same? anything. Thanks
  • Kidaver
    Ghoulscout

    500+ Posts
    • Apr 2011
    • 912

    #2
    Re: Just wondering

    I do Konica and Kyocera....Kyocera are rather easy to troubleshoot and work on....some machines have their unique quirks like any make or model....you'll learn them rather quickly...
    "In a cruel and evil world, being cynical can allow you to get some entertainment out of it."

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    • allan
      RTFM!!

      5,000+ Posts
      • Apr 2010
      • 5462

      #3
      Re: Just wondering

      Both good brands.I agree the Kyocera Mita machines are easy enough to work on.
      Don't know to0 much about Canon. Worked on an IR hear and there, no bad experience there.
      Whatever

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      • Jake2o
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        250+ Posts
        • Dec 2007
        • 325

        #4
        Re: Just wondering

        Worked on Xerox's for 10 years before joining in with canons. Overall Canons are great in offices with easy to set up scan to email and file stuff. Not as robust as the Xerox's (i wouldn't advise a commercial printer to do digital on a canon) but providing they are serviced regular they tend to be ok.

        The only thing i found going from one manufacturer to another was the words they use... IBT Belt (xerox - Intermediate Bias Transfer) and ITB (Canon - Image Transfer Belt) they are the same thing.
        Finding you way around a machine and knowing which screws to take out will undoubtedly take up most of your time because a line in the print going lead edge to tail edge in all colours (the right way to spell the word ) is usually the transfer belt in any machine. So IQ faults are the same for any printer / photocopier.

        Just got to learn the lingo and error codes really.

        Have fun

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        • fixthecopier
          ALIEN OVERLORD

          2,500+ Posts
          • Apr 2008
          • 4714

          #5
          Re: Just wondering

          Always take a better offer. Learning different brands just gives you more knowledge. I am sure you will have no issues if you have good troubleshooting skills. My shop works on anything.
          The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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          • blackcat4866
            Master Of The Obvious

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            • Jul 2007
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            #6
            Re: Just wondering

            Originally posted by fixthecopier
            Always take a better offer. Learning different brands just gives you more knowledge. I am sure you will have no issues if you have good troubleshooting skills. My shop works on anything.
            If you've got it, you've got it. You can learn anything you need to know, and in short order if you've got the knack and some time in the field. Just make sure you get that pay increase up front. That raise a year down the line might never happen. Most of the new Canons and Kyoceras are dual component, so the only monocomponent devices you'll see are the oldies. =^..^=
            If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
            1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
            2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
            3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
            4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
            5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

            blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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            • slimslob
              Retired

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              • May 2013
              • 37319

              #7
              Re: Just wondering

              Originally posted by Jake2o
              The only thing i found going from one manufacturer to another was the words they use... IBT Belt (xerox - Intermediate Bias Transfer) and ITB (Canon - Image Transfer Belt) they are the same thing.

              Just got to learn the lingo and error codes really.

              Have fun
              A lot of the difference in terminology is due to the fact Xerox copyrighted many of their terms. Ricoh was forced to stop using the term "Cleaning Web" and instead for a while was using "Cleaning Felt" because Brand X complained about copyright infringement.

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              • NeoMatrix
                Senior Tech.

                2,500+ Posts
                • Nov 2010
                • 3514

                #8
                Re: Just wondering

                Originally posted by Cookr
                OK. I primarily work on KM but I also work on some Sharps and Muratec (KM), but I may have a better job opportunity coming up and they work on Cannons and Kyocera which I have little to no experience with so I am just wondering what you guys think about those machines in general. Better? worse? same? anything. Thanks
                Every office machine ever made is basically just a plastic box.
                As long as the money is the same colour,feel and same pay rate or better then you're probably on a winner.

                Change is as good as a holiday as they say.....
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                • theengel
                  Service Manager

                  1,000+ Posts
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 1784

                  #9
                  Re: Just wondering

                  Don't pay attention to brands when it comes to accepting a job. You're either a tech or you're not.

                  Hell, either company could, at any moment, decide to take on another brand or even replace one with another.

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                  • theengel
                    Service Manager

                    1,000+ Posts
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1784

                    #10
                    Re: Just wondering

                    Now that I read my post, it sounds all bossy. I was just stating my opinion.

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                    • Zackuth
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                      250+ Posts
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 448

                      #11
                      Re: Just wondering

                      My company sells Kyoceras and Knoica Minolta, both are good brands. Kyocera is easy enough to learn, you should be just fine if you accept that new position.
                      If at first you don't succeed, redefine success

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                      • Cookr
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                        • Dec 2011
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                        #12
                        Re: Just wondering

                        Thanks everybody for the responses but I have decided to stay with my current company anyway due to the fact I just had a sit down with my boss and he gave me some good incentives to stay along with a raise so that works lol but Thanks again.

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                        • Copier Addict
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                          #13
                          Re: Just wondering

                          Originally posted by Cookr
                          Thanks everybody for the responses but I have decided to stay with my current company anyway due to the fact I just had a sit down with my boss and he gave me some good incentives to stay along with a raise so that works lol but Thanks again.
                          Things would be much easier if bosses would realise what employees are worth to their companies and pay them accordingly, instead of trying to pay as little as possible.

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                          • Iowatech
                            Not a service manager

                            2,500+ Posts
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 3930

                            #14
                            Re: Just wondering

                            Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                            Every office machine ever made is basically just a plastic box.
                            As long as the money is the same colour,feel and same pay rate or better then you're probably on a winner.

                            Change is as good as a holiday as they say.....
                            Good one!
                            A coworker told me something like that once - a blank sheet goes in one side, a printed sheet comes out the other.

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