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  • NeoMatrix
    Senior Tech.

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    • Nov 2010
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    #1

    New Copy Process

    Does any other Tech go to bed dream about copiers ? <yer,add sicko here>

    If your a worry-wart like me I tend to take a problem machine to bed and work on solving the problem while I sleep. Some rare times I can wake up with and answer that solves the problem.

    So this morning I wake up with a solution that fixes every single problem any copier techs has ever had.

    I woke up this morning with the out line of a totally new copier process in my head.
    The new process involves four tiny modulation phase timed lasers placed at the four corners of an unopened ream of paper. No machine body or any moving parts needed ever again.
    For black and white printing, the lasers instantly write through the entire ream of paper and creates a thermal image on every single sheet in the ream. But that's not not the best part. I believe I figured out one way to make the 4 laser heads write to the ream in full colour. Solving the full colour print issue is a little piece of information that I decline to share with people just for the moment.

    Yes I know, my wife tells me I worry or think to much.....

    Just sharing the inspiration around, it might make some tech's day better...

    Oh no, there's hope at last, there might be a god up there for copier techs after all.....
    Last edited by NeoMatrix; 01-22-2016, 11:41 PM.
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  • Tonerbomb
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    #2
    Re: New Copy Process

    The copiers I tend to dream about are actually nightmares, like the one in my avatar pic...................................
    Mystic Crystal Revelations

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    • Athlontini
      Trusted Tech

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      • Jun 2012
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      #3
      Re: New Copy Process

      Shhhh....I like having a job....

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      • allan
        RTFM!!

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        • Apr 2010
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        #4
        Re: New Copy Process

        Well have you seen the laser print heads they use to print (burn black) on almost anything. I had to install a printhead to print directly the expiry date on the crusts of meat pies. This was semi functional but never took off, some or other food safety free radical problem.

        If it prints directly onto thermal paper it will work(lots more wattage on the laser than a printer laser), but paper stacked on top of each other would not work with this.

        Ink base machine would work with a stationary tray but each paper would need to be removed from the stack making this a really stupid printer. Except if it is a gantry style printer that prints on really thick stuff.

        I would like to see paper that would work like old school LCD displays that would keep charge in the image or non-image areas creating the image.
        I know there is micro ball paper with balls half white and black that would flip over with an applied charge. But that is not good enough.
        The super thin flexible liquid crystal matrix semi reflective multi layered paper could produce color images. STFLCMSRMLP for short.
        And the best is all your paper is reusable.

        I believe this has been done. You will only need one piece of paper ever. Sound familiar?
        Whatever

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        • NeoMatrix
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          #5
          Re: New Copy Process

          Originally posted by allan
          I know there is micro ball paper with balls half white and black that would flip over with an applied charge. But that is not good enough.

          The super thin flexible liquid crystal matrix semi reflective multi layered paper could produce color images. STFLCMSRMLP for short.
          And the best is all your paper is reusable.

          I believe this has been done. You will only need one piece of paper ever. Sound familiar?

          What is the micro ball paper you are talking about ?
          Is there any working examples of micro ball paper ?

          For colour printing I was thinking along the same lines as liquid crystal but using a slightly
          different process that's used in other situations already just not for printing.

          The paper itself would be specially custom designed paper and probably 5.. 10 times more expensive,
          but the printer would cost virtually nothing to buy and of cause there would be low to no maintenance costs.

          My initial idea is just a theoretical pipe dream. I don't see myself doing anything further with it.
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          • mongo
            Technician

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            • Jul 2009
            • 55

            #6
            Re: New Copy Process

            Lets go back to a Zinc plate covered with sulfur. That way life with out jams and finisher that never wants to line up hole punch or staple in the right corner would be gone and that's 80% of the problems. Mongo

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            • Lagonda
              Service Manager

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              • Aug 2008
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              #7
              Re: New Copy Process

              I think its time you went back to see your doctor again Neo, it looks like your medication need changing.
              At least 50% of IT is a solution looking for a problem.

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              • allan
                RTFM!!

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                #8
                Re: New Copy Process

                Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                What is the micro ball paper you are talking about ?
                Is there any working examples of micro ball paper ?

                For colour printing I was thinking along the same lines as liquid crystal but using a slightly
                different process that's used in other situations already just not for printing.

                The paper itself would be specially custom designed paper and probably 5.. 10 times more expensive,
                but the printer would cost virtually nothing to buy and of cause there would be low to no maintenance costs.

                My initial idea is just a theoretical pipe dream. I don't see myself doing anything further with it.

                I saw a video clip of it a couple of years back. I am not sure who developed it, or if it really works.
                Xerox made some fading paper that would keep a printed image for a day, and can be printed on again.
                Whatever

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                • allan
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                  #9
                  Re: New Copy Process

                  The Future of Electronic Paper | Digital Trends

                  So the ball part i got correct, but not flipping balls.
                  Whatever

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                  • NeoMatrix
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #10
                    Re: New Copy Process

                    Originally posted by allan
                    The Future of Electronic Paper | Digital Trends

                    So the ball part i got correct, but not flipping balls.
                    Bugger... ...... <THUD> ..... The thud was me falling off my perch.


                    I had around the same idea but using RGB in the sphere with different sized particles of the same three colours so the colours mix when different amounts of charge ie. laser phasing applied. This would theoretically give millions of different colours. Burst each particle inside the sphere with a laser frequency and phase that is tuned to the exact individual size R,G,B particles. Example Red particles would be size=1, Green size=2 , Blue size=3
                    If you want colour purple burst size 1 & size 3 particles. Apply a laser time varation(nano-seconds) to the bust parictles so the 1&3 colours mix till the right hue is found.
                    I third laser would harden the bust particles at the same time so the paper doesn't leak.

                    Of course you need special paper for all the above theory to work. It won't be any
                    cheaper for the customer , but the tech's can look forward to retirement, albeit early...

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                    • allan
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                      #11
                      Re: New Copy Process

                      Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                      Bugger... ...... <THUD> ..... The thud was me falling off my perch.


                      I had around the same idea but using RGB in the sphere with different sized particles of the same three colours so the colours mix when different amounts of charge ie. laser phasing applied. This would theoretically give millions of different colours. Burst each particle inside the sphere with a laser frequency and phase that is tuned to the exact individual size R,G,B particles. Example Red particles would be size=1, Green size=2 , Blue size=3
                      If you want colour purple burst size 1 & size 3 particles. Apply a laser time varation(nano-seconds) to the bust parictles so the 1&3 colours mix till the right hue is found.
                      I third laser would harden the bust particles at the same time so the paper doesn't leak.

                      Of course you need special paper for all the above theory to work. It won't be any
                      cheaper for the customer , but the tech's can look forward to retirement, albeit early...

                      B.
                      U.
                      G.
                      G.
                      E.
                      R.
                      ......
                      Now rethink that to be reusable.
                      Whatever

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                      • NeoMatrix
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                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3514

                        #12
                        Re: New Copy Process

                        Originally posted by allan
                        Now rethink that to be reusable.
                        You mean erasable paper.
                        Erasable paper would be fine for general information like newsprint and educational institutions.
                        Erasable paper wouldn't be much good for financial or legal documents as such.
                        Legal documents must be permanent an original with no method of being altered.

                        And ultraviolet laser process might erase the unwanted print like removing ugly tattoos from people, but I don't believe the special paper could be used again in the quad laser printer process. All the micro ink capsules or toner particles in the larger sphere capsual would be burst or melted.

                        Erasable write many times paper :
                        I could be done in theory ,I just had another light bulb moment. It would involve a cube shaped particle with 6 sides of colour , and rotate the cube in an outer foundation medium. A laser melts the outside medium enough so the cube can be rotated to the next colour, and the outer medium then cools holding the cube at that colour permanently until the next time the paper needs to be over written.
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                        • blackcat4866
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                          Re: New Copy Process

                          I haven't had one of those dreams in a while, but my wife tells me that I have spent whole nights waving my arms in the air, turning imaginary screwdrivers, stringing imaginary corona wires, etc, etc. Most of the time I do not remember those dreams unless I'm awoken from the dream by the alarm. Then I remember quite a lot. It's funny how the known laws of physics do not necessarily apply in dreams. =^..^=
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