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  • NeoMatrix
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    #16
    Re: Condolences To France

    Given the terrorist activities around the world at present, we each all want a definitive
    answer to all the dark life layers that engross this finite material capitalistic world?
    Where is the answer? Where do we turn when every one of us is responsible in some small way.

    Every healthy person has an innate sense of purpose and general direction in their life.
    We all come into this world "believing" that life owes us everything, an material gain will
    some how make us forever feel warm and fuzzy inside,or likewise spiritually fulfilled if you
    prefer that analogy. Every single one of us wishes for something different,more-of or the
    better-of in our cyclic repetitive mundane lives.

    Every single person is challenged head on every day with division/separation choices:

    o The we-they, them-us divison.
    o The haves, the have nots.
    o The boss, the slave.
    o The do-this, the don't do that.
    o The stop, the go.
    o The ruling, the working.
    o The rich, the poor.
    o The mum, the dad.
    o The good, the bad.
    o The smart, the slow.
    o The religious, the atheist
    o The god, the devil.
    o The clear, the confused.
    o The killer, the victim.
    o The lost, the found.
    o The cause, the solution.
    o The terrorist, the martyr.
    o The at peace, the at war.
    o The beautiful, the ugly.
    o The light, the dark.
    o The healthy, the sickly.
    o The hot, the cold.
    o The sporty, the slouch.
    o The happy, the angry.
    o The ....

    On reading the above list, some people will most likely read something that will resonant for them.Will that resonance instill or invoke a challenge to your currently held belief system?

    Every person every day is faced with the same multiples choices in all areas of lifes divides.
    These are the final choices we are all forced to make, either knowingly or unknowingly.
    No one person is that precision perfect that they can truly sit on the fence of lifes divides.
    In it's simplist form it all comes down to the "division choice" that each one of us places "THE
    MOST IMPORTANCE ON" in our daily lives. Which divided side of lifes fences do we stand on? Which half of the belief system do we adhere to? How much personal time an effort are each one of us willing to afford to our division choice until we achieve a justified result or outcome, good or bad?

    What if we afford so much effort to our division choice only to find that our initial choice was
    wrong? Does the ego allow ourselves to jump the fence and choose the other side of the divide?
    Each person on opposite sides of the divide will affirm they have the absolute rightful side.

    Concluding :
    In the final end game there is no real definitive answer, life just is, each one plays a part...
    Life is a game played from both sides, it's up to each individual how we decide the grand finale.


    What is will be, was isn't will not... ...





    [Apology for the looong rant....]
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    • SwisSeV
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      #17
      Re: Condolences To France

      Originally posted by TheBlueOrleans
      Also, don't bring religious beliefs (or the lack thereof) into this, please. Nobody is besmirching atheism, though we certainly could.

      Why can't we bring up the religion of these individuals? Islamists use their faith to motivate and justify their attacks.
      Cant fix the problem if we cant talk about it. Islamic terror attacks hurt Muslims more than anyone else!
      thereligionofpeace

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      • TonerMunkeh
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        #18
        Re: Condolences To France

        Originally posted by SwisSeV
        Why can't we bring up the religion of these individuals? Islamists use their faith to motivate and justify their attacks.
        Cant fix the problem if we cant talk about it. Islamic terror attacks hurt Muslims more than anyone else!
        thereligionofpeace
        Indeed. Compared to what occurs in the rest of the world, what happens in Islamic countries really does defy belief. Public beheadings, shootings, mass murders. All in the name of a "peaceful" religion that has been twisted and contorted by a minority.

        I read over the weekend someone from the US has said to question immigrants if they follow Sharia Law and to deport them if they admit to it. Now call me a pessimist, but isn't every single person going to say no?
        It's 106 miles to Chicago. We've got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we're wearing sunglasses.

        Hit it.

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        • Copier Addict
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          #19
          Re: Condolences To France

          Originally posted by TheBlueOrleans
          "No amount of police and laws will prevent criminals."
          I can agree with that. There is no deterrent to lawbreaking for someone who wants to break the law.

          A well-armed and well-trained citizenry will prevent criminals.

          For a common criminal to get the same feeling in the pit of their stomach that our police get every day, the feeling of knowing you might not come home alive today, THAT will be a deterrent.


          I have to to stop now before I post something that borders on sedition.
          Also, don't bring religious beliefs (or the lack thereof) into this, please. Nobody is besmirching atheism, though we certainly could.

          Considering the US has the most guns per capita and the highest reported crime rate, I don't think your theory holds any water.

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          • TheBlueOrleans
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            #20
            Re: Condolences To France

            Originally posted by copier addict
            Considering the US has the most guns per capita and the highest reported crime rate, I don't think your theory holds any water.
            Eliminate New York, Newark, Chicago, Los Angeles, New Orleans (sadly), and Detroit from the equation of violence per capita (since those areas also have the most stringent regulations on legal firearm ownership and possession, and criminals couldn't care less about gun control laws) and you'll find the U.S. is nowhere near as bad as it's made out to be.

            By the way, who runs those cities?
            Somewhere there is a tree working hard to produce oxygen for you to live, NOW GO APOLOGIZE TO IT!

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            • TheBlueOrleans
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              #21
              Re: Condolences To France

              Originally posted by SwisSeV
              Why can't we bring up the religion of these individuals? Islamists use their faith to motivate and justify their attacks.
              Cant fix the problem if we cant talk about it. Islamic terror attacks hurt Muslims more than anyone else!
              thereligionofpeace
              My intent was never to deny that religion was the key aspect of this atrocity, as well as so many others.
              I meant specifically that post that mentioned "brainwashing from birth a belief in an omnipotent God", or some such wording (I paraphrase because I do not remember), and simply because one chooses to deny all the evidence in front of them and claim that no deity exists, which I believe is their right to do, but to paint all believers with the same broad brush is not the right way to go about it.
              I'm rambling because I'm typing this on mobile and if I can't read what I've written I lose track of my thought process.

              [point] Believers are not all the same.
              Somewhere there is a tree working hard to produce oxygen for you to live, NOW GO APOLOGIZE TO IT!

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              • Tricky
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                #22
                Re: Condolences To France

                Originally posted by TheBlueOrleans

                A well-armed and well-trained citizenry will prevent criminals.


                Please remember this is a international forum like any other and some foriengers may find posts like that offensive.

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                • slimslob
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                  #23
                  Re: Condolences To France

                  Originally posted by TonerMunkeh
                  Indeed. Compared to what occurs in the rest of the world, what happens in Islamic countries really does defy belief. Public beheadings, shootings, mass murders. All in the name of a "peaceful" religion that has been twisted and contorted by a minority.

                  I read over the weekend someone from the US has said to question immigrants if they follow Sharia Law and to deport them if they admit to it. Now call me a pessimist, but isn't every single person going to say no?
                  Of course they will say no. Under Sharia law it is acceptable to lie to non believers and in some cases required.

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                  • slimslob
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                    #24
                    Re: Condolences To France

                    Originally posted by skynet
                    Please remember this is a international forum like any other and some foriengers may find posts like that offensive.
                    And we may find some of theirs offensive. Buckle up butter cup, life is a long and rough ride. If you are offended by anything I post, PM me and I will tell you what you can do about it. If I am offended by someone's post, some what. I read it, comment if it requires comment and carry on.

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                    • SwisSeV
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                      #25
                      Re: Condolences To France

                      Originally posted by skynet
                      Please remember this is a international forum like any other and some foriengers may find posts like that offensive.
                      Many people might disagree with that statement but nothing there is offensive. In the European country I was born in there was a militia rifle in every household, required by the state. It's a basic part of life these days.

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                      • NeoMatrix
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                        #26
                        Re: Condolences To France

                        Originally posted by slimslob
                        Of course they will say no. Under Sharia law it is acceptable to lie to non believers and in some cases required.

                        ...Seriously is the above true?

                        How can such a person place faith, honesty an integrity as their "soul life objective" only to disregard their very own brief system at the very point in their own faith where it's required the most??? Such a bellicose reverse behaviour is analogous to standing out on tree branch while cutting the same limb off . "Hey world I'm the only truth their is<saw-cut,saw-cut> I'm going to get rid of you all liars".

                        The very act of showing faith in adversity is a divine strength, not a weakness.

                        I'm not interested in starting a religion debate, every person is entitled to their own.

                        Truth be known though, sporting club patrons promote and dispute the same religion style rhetoric,eg. when rival sporting clubs/patrions start street riots over who's club religion is better at the game. Separation/division in society will always lead to the inevitable rivalry; if left uncheck stagnating into possible self justified hate retaliation. A healthy competition can only be fostered between the actual players of the game, not the over zealous supporters of the game, who through extremism turn the game into a religious style fanaticism.

                        Given the bigger picture thought,it doesn't matter which side of the faith system you stand, on be that religious or atheist, we're all on the same tiny speck of dust spiralling through the vastness of cosmic space. It doesn't matter diddly squat who thinks they own the planet, or who made it. The planet will be here for a billion more years long after we are all gone. So while we are here, we may as well all try to get along...
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                        • tech28
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                          #27
                          Re: Condolences To France

                          Originally posted by SwisSeV
                          Why can't we bring up the religion of these individuals? Islamists use their faith to motivate and justify their attacks.
                          Cant fix the problem if we cant talk about it. Islamic terror attacks hurt Muslims more than anyone else!
                          thereligionofpeace
                          March 1786, The Barbary Wars(look it up) Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy Sidi Hali Abdrahaman "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury" the ambassador replied"

                          It is written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledge the Profit(mohammad) were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that very muslim who was slain in warfare was sure to go to paradise. The US paid dearly then, and so it goes, many people that believe in the koran, will just never acknowledge what this country stands for and never will, its just not in their nature. Of all the countries that are taking in these migrants, not a single one is Arab, why? They know their people, only western countries are, people don't assimilate, prayer rooms in schools now in Minnesota, with taxpayer provided mats for them to pray and get excused from class's to go to the room, yet an American cannot take a bible to school or talk about God in school, they get suspended, what is going on is not good and it will get this country in the end. Destruction from within. This country has changed badly in these 8 years. God help us, God bless America. We need change badly.

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                          • ZOOTECH
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                            #28
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                            I don't believe it is just the last 8 years (Obama), but it's been ever since 'oil' and big business has taken controll of our congress - IMHO.
                            "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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                            • NeoMatrix
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                              #29
                              Re: Condolences To France

                              Originally posted by ZOOTECH
                              I don't believe it is just the last 8 years (Obama), but ever since 'oil' has controlled our congress - IMHO.
                              Given the world is a stage:
                              Sadly, I'm in agreement with your observations. I believe I'm not the only Aussie that has drawn the same conclusion.

                              We are getting world news about the UK Prime minister Tony Blair being implicated in oil-crimes war-crimes in Iraq an Afghanistan.
                              If they succeed with the indictment there could be similar calls for Australian prime ministers like John Howard to answer similar.

                              I'm wondering what happens after that on the world stage if the above succeeds....
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                              • ZOOTECH
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                                I believe this to be true: a 19th century UK quote - "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men."
                                I feel a 'revolution' of the poor will soon arise - we all should have a say in how we are governernd, not just the money brokers.
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