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  • FrohnB
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    #2521
    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
    If you read the article that you linked to you would learn that the Democrats are working to allow more young people and minorities to vote in a fair electoral process.

    Many states have electoral boundaries that do not fairly represent their constituents. This is known as gerrymandering and the Democrats are trying to redraw these boundaries which have long given Republican candidates an unfair structural advantage.

    Around the 8:00 mark of this YouTube video former Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger does a good job of explaining gerrymandering.

    YouTube

    The legal actions are also challenging voter registration laws that suppress registration and turnout, especially among students.

    Legal actions are also challenging laws that unduly restrict the hours and locations where registered voters can go for early voting.

    Please provide more links to excellent websites like Roll Call which is rated as unbiased, factual and fair.

    Roll Call - Media Bias/Fact Check

    The argument for decades has always been that the GOP is prejudice against blacks and young people, and have "gerrymandered" to get ahead. This is not the case. When you look back on just the past few elections (not just presidential), BOTH sides are guilty of "redistricting to gain votes".

    What the dems are trying to do is get rid of laws that ensure accurate counts, and laws that make sure the person sending in an absentee ballot IS the actual person who is registered to vote (signature verification), and another major one - specifically South Carolina - that requires your social security number (TO PROVE THAT YOU ARE WHO YOU ARE, and so no one else can use your name to vote with).

    As far as the Early voting hours/ place restrictions, there are laws in place that make it "against the rules" to set up an "early voting booth" outside of a DNC/GOP rally or a candidates rally and the like. This is what really irks them because they can get people to their rallies, but when it comes time to vote, they can't get those same people to get off their asses and GO VOTE!

    All these "things" that they are fighting against or challenging will make it easier for them to "fudge the results" in future elections if they succeed.


    I will continue to try to find the most "unbiased/ factual/ fair" sources for such information, but with the right and left wing media taking up all the bandwidth sometimes you have to do like I have, and just read through both sides, cite them both, and provide my own informed opinion.
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    • SalesServiceGuy
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      The argument for decades has always been that the GOP is prejudice against blacks and young people, (MAYBE) and have "gerrymandered" to get ahead. TRUE.

      This is not the case. FALSE. The GOP is very guilty of gerrymandering.

      When you look back on just the past few elections (not just presidential), Both sides are guilty of "redistricting to gain votes". TRUE

      What the dems are trying to do is get rid of laws that ensure accurate counts, FALSE

      and laws that make sure the person sending in an absentee ballot IS the actual person who is registered to vote (signature verification),OK

      and another major one - specifically South Carolina - that requires your social security number (To prove that you are who you are, and so no one else can use your name to vote with). OK

      As far as the Early voting hours/ place restrictions, there are laws in place that make it "against the rules" to set up an "early voting booth" outside of a DNC/GOP rally or a candidates rally and the like. OK

      This is what really irks them because they can get people to their rallies, but when it comes time to vote, they can't get those same people to get off their asses and go vote! YOUR OPINION, DEBATABLE

      All these "things" that they are fighting against or challenging will make it easier for them to "fudge the results" in future elections if they succeed. FALSE


      I will continue to try to find the most "unbiased/ factual/ fair" sources for such information, YOUR HISTORY OF LINKS & RESPONSES ON THIS THREAD DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS CLAIM. YOU COME ACROSS AS VERY TO EXTREMELY BIASED.

      but with the right and left wing media taking up all the bandwidth sometimes you have to do like I have, and just read through both sides, cite them both, and provide my own informed opinion. YOUR PERSONAL OPINION

      QUOTING UNBIASED SOURCES fact checked by 3rd party middle of the road sources like ROLE CALL helps to improve your credibility.

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      • slimslob
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        #2523
        Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

        Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
        The argument for decades has always been that the GOP is prejudice against blacks and young people, (MAYBE) and have "gerrymandered" to get ahead. TRUE.

        This is not the case. FALSE. The GOP is very guilty of gerrymandering.

        When you look back on just the past few elections (not just presidential), Both sides are guilty of "redistricting to gain votes". TRUE

        What the dems are trying to do is get rid of laws that ensure accurate counts, FALSE

        and laws that make sure the person sending in an absentee ballot IS the actual person who is registered to vote (signature verification),OK

        and another major one - specifically South Carolina - that requires your social security number (To prove that you are who you are, and so no one else can use your name to vote with). OK

        As far as the Early voting hours/ place restrictions, there are laws in place that make it "against the rules" to set up an "early voting booth" outside of a DNC/GOP rally or a candidates rally and the like. OK

        This is what really irks them because they can get people to their rallies, but when it comes time to vote, they can't get those same people to get off their asses and go vote! YOUR OPINION, DEBATABLE

        All these "things" that they are fighting against or challenging will make it easier for them to "fudge the results" in future elections if they succeed. FALSE


        I will continue to try to find the most "unbiased/ factual/ fair" sources for such information, YOUR HISTORY OF LINKS & RESPONSES ON THIS THREAD DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS CLAIM. YOU COME ACROSS AS VERY TO EXTREMELY BIASED.

        but with the right and left wing media taking up all the bandwidth sometimes you have to do like I have, and just read through both sides, cite them both, and provide my own informed opinion. YOUR PERSONAL OPINION

        QUOTING UNBIASED SOURCES fact checked by 3rd party middle of the road sources like ROLE CALL helps to improve your credibility.
        Are you as a Canadian and therefore a citizen of a foreign government trying to influence our elections. Maybe we should have you investigated.

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        • SalesServiceGuy
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          #2524
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          OK. Please send President Trump's top henchman Rudi Guiiiani to cook up a false conspiracy theory that it was Canada not Russia nor Ukraine that interfered with the 2016 USA election.

          Yes, it is true that I am a voice not from the USA.

          I am disturbed by how voices from the right seem to have lost traditional Republican values in allegiance to the Dear Leader. Your President and night time, right wing opinion shows seem to revel in mean spirited snickering, obscuring issues, hypocrisy, name calling, half baked truths and out right lies.

          I do not believe Republicans should be confident that Trump will be re-elected in 2020. Since Trump was elected, there have been approx 200-300 state and local elections. The Republicans have lost the great majority.

          Trump has met his match in Nancy Pelosi. I am sure he will blame someone else for being the first Republican President in history for being impeached.
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          • Copier Addict
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            #2525
            Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

            Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
            OK. Please send President Trump's top henchman Rudi Guiiiani to cook up a false conspiracy theory that it was Canada not Russia nor Ukraine that interfered with the 2016 USA election.

            Yes, it is true that I am a voice not from the USA.

            I am disturbed by how voices from the right seem to have lost traditional Republican values in allegiance to the Dear Leader. Your President and night time, right wing opinion shows seem to revel in mean spirited snickering, obscuring issues, hypocrisy, name calling, half baked truths and out right lies.

            I do not believe Republicans should be confident that Trump will be re-elected in 2020. Since Trump was elected, there have been approx 200-300 state and local elections. The Republicans have lost the great majority.

            Trump has met his match in Nancy Pelosi. I am sure he will blame someone else for being the first Republican President in history for being impeached.
            It really is strange how trump has somehow convinced a lot of people that any media that criticizes him is fake, every one of the intelligence agencies is lying and he has their best interest at heart.

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            • bsm2
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              • SalesServiceGuy
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                President Trump always seeks revenge against his foes.

                Bill Taylor, top and temporary US diplomat in the Ukraine and key witness in the impeachment enquiry against President Trump has been abruptly recalled to the US.

                Bill Taylor, top US diplomat who testified in impeachment hearing, set to leave post - CNNPolitics

                Bill Taylor was sent in to replace US Ukrainian Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch.

                President Trump's personal attorney Rudi Giuliani publicly admitted that he plotted to remove her from her long held post as she was an obstacle to promoting the false conspiracy theory that the Ukraine was responsible for hacking the 2016 US election. A conspiracy theory proven to have been originate by Russian intelligence to deflect accusations that it was Russia who attacked the US in 2016.

                There is now a vacuum in the US diplomatic coverage of the Ukraine which benefits Russia.
                Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 12-21-2019, 11:57 PM.

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                • SalesServiceGuy
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                  Republican media seized on the 17 errors made by the FISA court (Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court) and blew them up to gigantic proportions so as to distract from the main conclusions of the Dept of Justice, Inspector General that President Trump abused his powers to seek political gain.

                  Republican media headlined this for days.

                  FISA court looking at all of warrant applications from FBI lawyer involved in Carter Page wiretap - CNNPolitics

                  The FISA court order was for a single wiretap on a single individual.

                  Carter Page, a former foreign policy advisor to President Trump was accused of coordinating information passed from Russian intelligence (proven not true) and lying to the House Intelligence Committee under oath (proven true).

                  Carter Page is considering suing the JUstice Dept for damages to his reputation.

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                  • SalesServiceGuy
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                    #2529
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                    The impeachment of Donald Trump was fundamentally about how he had invited foreign powers to interfere in the US presidential election.

                    Next up is the trial in the Senate to decide whether to remove him from office.

                    The USA is at crossroads for the American system of government as the President tries to change what is acceptable for US politicians.

                    This is a very consequential moment in US history.

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                    • bsm2
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                      #2530
                      Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                      Trump rails against windmills: 'I never understood wind'

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                      • Copier Addict
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                        #2531
                        Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                        Originally posted by bsm2
                        Trump rails against windmills: 'I never understood wind'

                        I have heard three year olds put together more coherent sentences than good old donny. I think his mental abilities are diminishing.
                        For a "stable genius" he certainly has trouble putting words together.

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                        • Phil B.
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                          #2532
                          Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                          Originally posted by copier addict
                          I have heard three year olds put together more coherent sentences than good old donny. I think his mental abilities are diminishing.
                          For a "stable genius" he certainly has trouble putting words together.
                          haters will hate

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                          • Copier Addict
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                            #2533
                            Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                            Originally posted by Phil B.
                            haters will hate

                            Naw, I don't hate anyone. I'm simply open minded to the possibility that donny's mind may not be as sharp as he like to brag about.
                            He has some people fawning over his every word and I kinda feel sorry for them.

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                            • SalesServiceGuy
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                              Like most bad things that happen in the world, money and power is often at the root of all evil.

                              Last year Russia exported $1.6T of natural gas to the the European Union representing 5% of the total economy. 80% of that natural gas flows through pipelines that cross the Ukraine.

                              Record Russian gas sales to Europe help Gazprom profits double - Reuters

                              The Ukraine receives approx $3B per year in royalties from Russia. A country that it is at war with. Strange bedfellows or what?

                              Putin: Russia Ready To Prolong Gas Deal With Ukraine If Needed


                              Nafotgaz is Ukraine's state owned natural gas and oil company.

                              Burisma Holdings manages 5% of all natural gas drilled in Ukraine.

                              Burisma Holdings - Wikipedia

                              Burisma is the same company that hired US Presidential candidate Joe Biden's son as a Board member advisor to damage his reputation.

                              Russian crime boss Dmitri Firtash with close associations to Vladimir Putin made billions selling Russian natural gas to Ukraine. The US wants to extradite Firtash on charges of bribery.

                              The invisible man: Text messages reveal former golfer's role in Ukraine scandal - CNNPolitics

                              Russia is building a pipeline under the Baltic Sea to bypass the Ukraine called NordStream2 that is close to completion.
                              Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 12-24-2019, 04:32 AM.

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                              • FrohnB
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                                Donald Trump hosts Amish in historic Oval Office visit - Washington Times

                                I see NOTHING from the liberal media on this. CBSnews has a link to an "Amish Dating site", but not a single word about another First for our country (brought to you by President Trump), an Amish delegation visiting the White House. The Amish aren't overtly political, but even they say that the impeachment effort is BS.
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