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  • gneebore
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    #2041
    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Originally posted by slimslob
    The state of California routinely ignores federal law. Ever since California started issuing drivers licenses to illegal aliens, the California DMV has also frequently been registering illegals under the 1993 National Voter Registration Act,often called the Motor Voter law which allows the same DMV clerk who issues a person their driver's license to also register them to vote.

    It is estimated that as many as 5 million illegals votes in Southern California in the 2016 November General Election. That is more than Clinton won California.

    Non-citizens illegally registered to vote, California DMV admits - Washington Times

    Give up he never actually responds to facts. He will only reply with more of the same and of course the forty point font. Heck one of the reasons California is resisting the plan to not count illegal is they would lose a whole lot of representatives in the house , which is based on the population of the state. Lose the by various estimates 5 million illegals and California may lose one or two members of the house

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    • slimslob
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      #2042
      Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

      Originally posted by gneebore
      Notice he uses google which has been proven to deliberately list leftist results prominently and put anything contrary on the fifth or sixth page of results. Since they discovered that most web searchers will not scroll through more that one or two pages of results. Like a common result before the last presidential election any search on google for the candidates prominently featured pictures of Hillary.
      That is why I use Yahoo as my primary search engine and duckduckgo.com as my secondary. Try searching Epstein-Clinton on Google. You might have to go to the second or third page before anything about Clinton appears. M

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      • gneebore
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        #2043
        Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

        Originally posted by slimslob
        That is why I use Yahoo as my primary search engine and duckduckgo.com as my secondary. Try searching Epstein-Clinton on Google. You might have to go to the second or third page before anything about Clinton appears. M
        No I gave up using google a couple years ago. Found a few references, when I used a malware scanner on my pc, to tracking cookies from third party websites I did not go to but were actually lower on the page resulting links from google results. You know when you do a search for something like a congressional candidate in your state and end up with results for anywhere around the country. Yes I have for quite a while set my browsers to reject third party cookies and to prevent tracking because of the weird ads that popped up before I started using an ad blocker. There was a discussion thread about the use of them on here too. I use duckduckgo and yahoo too. And I also use Bing because it is the default for IE or when I have to use it Edge. My normal browser is Firefox. But some webpages I like are set to work best with the other two. Again part of another discussion in the past here because some of the tech support websites back then required the use of IE. One on particular I remember from back then was the Kyocera tech support web site.

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        • bsm2
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          #2044
          Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

          Originally posted by gneebore
          Also included in your link is the other fact that there were two other factor to account for the drop in personal bankruptcy

          From the article you linked to:
          "The many experts we interviewed also pointed to two other contributing factors: an improving economy and changes to bankruptcy laws in 2005 that made it more difficult and costly to file. However, they almost all agreed that expanded health coverage played a major role in the marked, recent decline."

          And you are a moron with the same old crap plans nonsense. I had plans before the ACA the included pre-existing coverage. And yes I also had ones that did not cover them for one year. I also had quotes for health insurance under the ACA that would not cover treatment for my chronic kidney disease , because if it got bad enough it was covered under Medicare. So they were not required to cover kidney disease.

          And as for the supposed great coverage of Medicare guess what it is actually worse than any insurance plan I had before the ACA and even the ones quoted to me after the ACA. There are a lot of things covered and excluded, but under Part B of Medicare you are responsible for 20 percent of the costs of covered procedures. Unless that is you have supplemental insurance, Medigap or an Advantage plan paid for by you. And you also pay a monthly premium taken out of your social security for the Medicare part B coverage.

          Oh yes I again realize that nothing will make a dent in that thick skull of yours since you still insist on misusing the word your. Again the wording should have been "you're on a gov run"

          You seem to be a Very Very unhappy fellow. Maybe you should get some help.

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          • bsm2
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            #2045
            Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

            Originally posted by slimslob
            The state of California routinely ignores federal law. Ever since California started issuing drivers licenses to illegal aliens, the California DMV has also frequently been registering illegals under the 1993 National Voter Registration Act,often called the Motor Voter law which allows the same DMV clerk who issues a person their driver's license to also register them to vote.

            It is estimated that as many as 5 million illegals votes in Southern California in the 2016 November General Election. That is more than Clinton won California.

            Non-citizens illegally registered to vote, California DMV admits - Washington Times

            Federal LAW That's the FACT! Look it UP
            Since enactment of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, federal law has prohibited noncitizens from voting in federal elections, punishing them by fines, imprisonment, inadmissibility and deportation.[3][4][5] Exempt from punishment is any noncitizen who "reasonably believed at the time of voting (...) that he or she was a citizen of the United States," had a parent who is or was a citizen and began permanently living in the United States before turning 16 years old.[3] The federal law does not prohibit noncitizens from voting in state or local elections, but no state has allowed noncitizens to vote in state elections since Arkansas became the last state to outlaw noncitizen voting in 1926.[6] However, in some states, local governments have the power to allow noncitizens to vote in local elections. Presently, eleven local governments, ten of them in Maryland, allow noncitizens to vote in their local elections.[7] San Francisco allows noncitizen parents to vote in School Board elections.[8]

            The president in January 2018 disbanded a White House commission tasked with looking into those accusations. It found no proof of widespread voter fraud.
            Trump renews unfounded allegations of illegal voting | TheHill
            Last edited by bsm2; 09-01-2019, 03:23 AM.

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            • bsm2
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              #2046
              Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

              Originally posted by gneebore
              Give up he never actually responds to facts. He will only reply with more of the same and of course the forty point font. Heck one of the reasons California is resisting the plan to not count illegal is they would lose a whole lot of representatives in the house , which is based on the population of the state. Lose the by various estimates 5 million illegals and California may lose one or two members of the house

              Here you GO! Enjoy Trump renews unfounded allegations of illegal voting



              President Trump on Tuesday renewed his false claim that immigrants living illegally in the U.S. vote in large numbers.


              Speaking to the conservative youth organization Turning Point USA, Trump said without citing evidence that the immigrants put on different hats and clothes in order to vote multiple times in states like California.


              “You’ve got people voting that shouldn’t be voting,” the president said. “They vote many times. Not just two times, not just three times … It’s a rigged deal.”


              Trump has repeatedly made allegations of rampant voter fraud during his 2 1/2 years in the White House, all without providing evidence. He said that millions of illegal votes cost him the popular-vote victory in 2016 against Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton.


              The president in January 2018 disbanded a White House commission tasked with looking into those accusations. It found no proof of widespread voter fraud.
              https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/454330-trump-renews-unfounded-allegations-of-illegal-voting

              Yes small font Yep small

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              • bsm2
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                #2047
                Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                Originally posted by blazebusiness
                I am not a Republican and would have had no issue with your Just how Crazy is Donald Trump

                .
                Since you have NEVER ever engaged in any posts but one on this thread and made incorrect statements based on nothing. Maybe you should re-read the title of this thread Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!


                If you like to discuss any topic your more than welcome too.
                Last edited by bsm2; 09-01-2019, 03:03 AM.

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                • gneebore
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                  #2048
                  Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                  Originally posted by bsm2
                  You seem to be a Very Very unhappy fellow. Maybe you should get some help.
                  Nope quite happy and gladly picking apart your drivel. If I didn't enjoy it you would still be on my ignore list. Actually you are but I still see your posts because of others quoting you which is how we got started on this topic a couple days ago, and I get notices when you reply to one of my posts whether it is in response to you or someone else. Over the last few days you have repeatedly claimed how great the ACA is versus anything else before or since without regard to the statistics that showed the increases in cost of coverage and the millions who lost their current insurance in force before the ACA because of the new regulations that made those policies now illegal. Like what actually happened to me. . Btw you have yet to respond to the fact that the ACA or Obamacare when proclaiming the success of newly insured citizens the newly insured were actually being added to the Medicaid roles which was in existence before the ACA inflating the numbers of "insured"

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                  • bsm2
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                    #2049
                    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                    Originally posted by gneebore
                    Nope quite happy and gladly picking apart your drivel. If I didn't enjoy it you would still be on my ignore list. Actually you are but I still see your posts because of others quoting you which is how we got started on this topic a couple days ago, and I get notices when you reply to one of my posts whether it is in response to you or someone else. Over the last few days you have repeatedly claimed how great the ACA is versus anything else before or since without regard to the statistics that showed the increases in cost of coverage and the millions who lost their current insurance in force before the ACA because of the new regulations that made those policies now illegal. Like what actually happened to me. . Btw you have yet to respond to the fact that the ACA or Obamacare when proclaiming the success of newly insured citizens the newly insured were actually being added to the Medicaid roles which was in existence before the ACA inflating the numbers of "insured"


                    Seems like you LOVE the good old days when Insurance companies could screw you. GOOD News they still can under the TRUMPO Crap plans.
                    enjoy ACA covered 20 million additional Americans, protects over 100 million with pre-existing conditions, and allows young adults to stay on their parents’ coverage until age 26.

                    Medicare and the Affordable Care Act
                    How the Affordable Care Act has worked to reduce spending, drive down costs for Medicare beneficiaries, improve service delivery


                    Source: Medicare and the Affordable Care Act | medicareresources.org


                    Trump’s Anti-Obamacare Insurance Plans Are Ripping People Off
                    Short-term health insurance plans spend a fraction of premiums on actual medical care.
                    The so-called “junk insurance” plans the Trump administration promotes may be helping insurance companies more than patients.


                    Short-term, limited-duration health insurance plans—Obamacare workarounds that do not have to comply to the Affordable Care Act—spend less than ACA-compliant plans on medical care, according to a data published last week in the National Association of Insurance Commissioner’s 2018 Accident and Health Policy Report, as Modern Healthcare reported.


                    For every dollar paid in premiums on UnitedHealthcare’s short-term health plans, 37 cents are spent on medical claims. At Cambia Health Solutions, just 9 percent of premium costs go to medical care. The rest of the money goes to administrative expenses or is kept as profit. On average, the report found that, among the five health insurers that earn the most in short-term insurance premiums, 39.2 percent of premiums were going to pay for patients’ medical care.


                    “Short-term health plans’ loss ratios are lower because they don’t cover nearly as many benefits,” Modern Healthcare writes. “Unlike Affordable Care Act-compliant plans, short-term plans can deny coverage to people with pre-existing health conditions and charge more based on health status. They are not required to and often don’t cover the 10 essential health benefits, including maternity care and prescription drugs.”


                    ACA-compliant plans are required to spend 80 percent of premiums on medical care. Essentially, Obamacare set a cap on the percentage of profit health insurance companies can make off premiums, forcing them to spend the vast majority of their funds on actual medical services. If an insurance company ends up charging higher premiums than that 80 percent rate, the insurers have to send out rebates.


                    President Donald Trump has promoted short-term health plans by extending their maximum duration from three months to a year, potentially making them more appealing for healthy individuals. While about 86,000 people were enrolled in these plans in 2018, according to the NAIC, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services expects that more than 1.6 million people will have a short-term health plan by 2021 or 2022.


                    That means more money for insurance companies, and less for actual medical services.



                    Why the short-term health plans Trump favors are cheap: They shortchange you on care

                    At least one short-term insurance issuer spent less than 10 cents of every premium dollar collected on healthcare, according to the NAIC figures, which were assiduously crunched by Shelby Livingston of Modern Healthcare. The top three short-term issuers — the giant UnitedHealth Group, National General and the private equity-owned Geneve Holdings — spent a combined 43.8% of their premiums on delivering health services to customers. They account for 80% of the short-term market.
                    Last edited by bsm2; 09-01-2019, 04:10 AM.

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                    • gneebore
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                      #2050
                      Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                      Originally posted by bsm2
                      Here you GO! Enjoy Trump renews unfounded allegations of illegal voting

                      . It found no proof of widespread voter fraud.
                      https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/454330-trump-renews-unfounded-allegations-of-illegal-voting

                      Yes small font Yep small
                      Here you go a survey of of illegal aliens in California shows that 13 percent of them admitted to voting.

                      Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote

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                      • bsm2
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                        #2051
                        Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                        Originally posted by gneebore
                        Here you go a survey of of illegal aliens in California shows that 13 percent of them admitted to voting.

                        Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote

                        Love the FAKE News site you go too. For YOUR FACTS
                        Guess TRUMPO own committee couldn't find any. Hilarious

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                        • gneebore
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                          #2052
                          Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                          Originally posted by bsm2
                          Medicare and the Affordable Care Act | medicareresources.org


                          Why the short-term health plans Trump favors are cheap: They shortchange you on care

                          At least one short-term insurance issuer spent less than 10 cents of every premium dollar collected on healthcare, according to the NAIC figures, which were assiduously crunched by Shelby Livingston
                          Too bad you actually do not understand what short term plans are actually. They are not meant to be permanent insurance but to fill in the gap until the purchaser can get a long term policy. Most short term plans from what I read about them are only for three or six months to a year maximum and are not set up as permanent policies, but are for people that need some inexpensive temporary coverage until they can find a better job, better low cost yearly renewable policy. And are usually for younger healthier people. They are not full long term permanent insurance. They are actually also for older, nearing the age of retirement people that need something to assist them until they become eligible for Medicare should they leave work earlier than 65. And again these are not coverage for everything for anyone with any sort of possible illness. They are meant to be short term unexpected illness or injury coverage. Of course if young healthy people in between jobs or, becoming to old to be covered by their parents insurance, that do not need the average amount of medical treatment or long term care are the most common purchasers then there are going to be lower payouts for treatment by the insurers.

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                          • bsm2
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                            #2053
                            Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                            Originally posted by gneebore
                            Too bad you actually do not understand what short term plans are actually. They are not meant to be permanent insurance but to fill in the gap until the purchaser can get a long term policy. Most short term plans from what I read about them are only for three or six months to a year maximum and are not set up as permanent policies, but are for people that need some inexpensive temporary coverage until they can find a better job, better low cost yearly renewable policy. And are usually for younger healthier people. They are not full long term permanent insurance. They are actually also for older, nearing the age of retirement people that need something to assist them until they become eligible for Medicare should they leave work earlier than 65. And again these are not coverage for everything for anyone with any sort of possible illness. They are meant to be short term unexpected illness or injury coverage. Of course if young healthy people in between jobs or, becoming to old to be covered by their parents insurance, that do not need the average amount of medical treatment or long term care are the most common purchasers then there are going to be lower payouts for treatment by the insurers.
                            Yes
                            Too bad you actually do not understand what TRUMPO plans are actually.
                            So it's OK
                            Trump’s Anti-Obamacare Insurance Plans Are Ripping People Off
                            more money for insurance companies, and less for actual medical services

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                            • gneebore
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                              #2054
                              Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                              Originally posted by bsm2
                              Love the FAKE News site you go too. For YOUR FACTS
                              Guess TRUMPO own committee couldn't find any. Hilarious
                              Oh right it wasn't from the proven false news outlet of CNN. Too bad it was an actual poll taken by someone to see what the effect on elections would be if they did vote. So taking the most commonly quoted figure of illegal immigrants of 15 to 20 million in the US that means anywhere from nearly 2 million to 2.6 million just from the numbers that actually admit to voting in US elections.

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                              • gneebore
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                                #2055
                                Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                                Originally posted by bsm2
                                Federal LAW That's the FACT! Look it UP
                                Since enactment of the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996, federal law has prohibited noncitizens from voting in federal elections, punishing them by fines, imprisonment, inadmissibility and deportation.[3][4][5] Exempt from punishment is any noncitizen who "reasonably believed at the time of voting (...) that he or she was a citizen of the United States," had a parent who is or was a citizen and began permanently living in the United States before turning 16 years old.[3] The federal law does not prohibit noncitizens from voting in state or local elections, but no state has allowed noncitizens to vote in state elections since Arkansas became the last state to outlaw noncitizen voting in 1926.[6] However, in some states, local governments have the power to allow noncitizens to vote in local elections. Presently, eleven local governments, ten of them in Maryland, allow noncitizens to vote in their local elections.[7] San Francisco allows noncitizen parents to vote in School Board elections.[8]

                                The president in January 2018 disbanded a White House commission tasked with looking into those accusations. It found no proof of widespread voter fraud.
                                Trump renews unfounded allegations of illegal voting | TheHill
                                It may be illegal but it is also illegal for them to be here anyway and they admit do admit to voting and using fake citizenship papers too. They are here illegally so what does it matter to them anyway.

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