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  • SalesServiceGuy
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    #2731
    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    A new Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF) poll this week describes the Top 3 issues for American voters.

    1) Healthcare
    2) The economy
    3) Climate change

    KFF Health Tracking Poll – February 2020: Health Care in the 2020 Election | The Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation

    10 years after its introduction, Obamacare has never been more popular with US voters with a clear majority of Americans (55%) supporting the law. 37% of American view the ACA negatively.

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    • bsm2
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      #2732
      Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

      Rush Limbaugh claims Chinese are 'trying to weaponize' coronavirus to 'bring down' Trump
      Conservative commentator Rush Limbaugh said he thinks the coronavirus is being sensationalized to hurt President Trump.


      As the stock market falls amid the spread of the virus, Limbaugh claimed that the outbreak was being used to "bring down" Trump, dismissing the virus's symptoms on Monday.


      "Folks, this coronavirus thing, I want to try to put this in perspective for you. It looks like the coronavirus is being weaponized as yet another element to bring down Donald Trump. Now, I want to tell you the truth about the coronavirus ... The coronavirus is the common cold, folks," he claimed.

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      • bcxprint
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        #2733
        Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

        Originally posted by zed255
        Can't speak directly for tho OP, but what goes on in the US can, and has in the past, had substantial impact on us in Canada. The US is our single largest trading partner. Decisions made south of the 49th are watched pretty closely by us Canucks as they do matter to us much of the time.

        Frankly, he scares the hell out of me. Comes off as a real loose cannon type. Hopefully his advisors and chiefs of staff can 'temper' him a little. Not that the alternative was any better, and may well have been worse. I'm actually much less likely to visit the US with Trump in office.
        Well any other country is scared because for once we are demanding a fair deal. Since WWII when we saved the rest of the world from German domination, we allowed everyone to rebuild their countries when we could have very easily taken over the world as Germany tried to. Instead in true US fashion we gave the world a hand in rebuilding after the lunatic tried killing us all. Now things are back even again so its time to play fair but many countries do not want to so Trump is forcing that to happen . Everyone loves an advantage so its time to play fair people and Trump is the man to make that happen.

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        • bcxprint
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          #2734
          Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

          Originally posted by salesserviceguy
          a new kaiser family foundation (kff) poll this week describes the top 3 issues for american voters.

          1) healthcare
          2) the economy
          3) climate change



          10 years after its introduction, obamacare has never been more popular with us voters with a clear majority of americans (55%) supporting the law. 37% of american view the aca negatively.

          does anyone remember what the polls proved last presidential election ? And have you all forgotten already???? My god.

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          • slimslob
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            #2735
            Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

            Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
            A new Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF) poll this week describes the Top 3 issues for American voters.

            1) Healthcare
            2) The economy
            3) Climate change



            10 years after its introduction, Obamacare has never been more popular with US voters with a clear majority of Americans (55%) supporting the law. 37% of American view the ACA negatively.

            The problem with poles results such as these do not tell you anything about which way the voters feel about the issues, only the percentage who think each issue is of most importance. Of that 26%/28% on healthcare how many of them place it of high importance because they do not want government control healthcare. The same can be said for every one of those issues.

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            • slimslob
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              #2736
              Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

              Originally posted by bcxprint
              does anyone remember what the polls proved last presidential election ? And have you all forgotten already???? My god.
              Does anyone remember what happened in the 1994 off year elections following the 1993 attempt by the Democrats to push through Hillarycare? How about the 2010 off year elections following Pelosi and Harry Reid railroading through the Affordable Care Act of 2010? In both instances the Democrats lost control of the House.

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              • bsm2
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                #2737
                Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                Originally posted by slimslob
                Does anyone remember what happened in the 1994 off year elections following the 1993 attempt by the Democrats to push through Hillarycare? How about the 2010 off year elections following Pelosi and Harry Reid railroading through the Affordable Care Act of 2010? In both instances the Democrats lost control of the House.

                How you do in the last Midterm election?
                Other than giving Massive TAX Break too the Rich
                Where's Trump Plans to fix anything?
                Healthcare?
                After over 12 years of Lies it's TIME for a Change!

                251 days til Election TICK TOCK!
                Last edited by bsm2; 02-25-2020, 01:29 PM.

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                • Copier Addict
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                  #2738
                  Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                  Originally posted by bcxprint
                  Well any other country is scared because for once we are demanding a fair deal. Since WWII when we saved the rest of the world from German domination, we allowed everyone to rebuild their countries when we could have very easily taken over the world as Germany tried to. Instead in true US fashion we gave the world a hand in rebuilding after the lunatic tried killing us all. Now things are back even again so its time to play fair but many countries do not want to so Trump is forcing that to happen . Everyone loves an advantage so its time to play fair people and Trump is the man to make that happen.
                  Does everyone in the US think they singlehandedly saved the world from Germany? Talk about over inflated egos. There were many countries involved in WW2. Most of them were actually in the war from the start. I will bet a lot of USers don't even realise that WW2 started in 1939.

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                  • bsm2
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                    #2739
                    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                    Fact check: Trump falsely claims Roger Stone was 'never' involved in his campaign
                    President Donald Trump has a long history of dubiously distancing himself from allies who have turned on him or found themselves in trouble.


                    He is now doing the same with Roger Stone, the political operative who was sentenced last Thursday to 40 months in prison for five counts of lying to Congress about issues related to his relationship with WikiLeaks, one count of witness tampering and one count of obstructing the congressional investigation into Russia's interference in the 2016 election.
                    Trump's comments about Stone's relationship with his campaign have grown more inaccurate over the past two weeks. The President has gone from saying Stone "wasn't even working" for his campaign -- leaving open the possibility that he was accurately talking about the 2017 period when Stone committed his crimes -- to falsely saying Stone never worked for his 2016 campaign at any time, to saying even more falsely that Stone was never even "involved" in his 2016 campaign.
                    Trump repeated the first version of the claim in a February 25 tweet attacking the jury forewoman in Stone's trial, saying, "Roger wasn't even working on my campaign."
                    Facts First: Stone officially worked for the Trump campaign until August 2015, about a month and a half after Trump announced his candidacy. Stone remained an informal adviser after that and communicated with top Trump campaign officials in 2016 about the activities of WikiLeaks, according to witness testimony and phone records presented at Stone's trial. Stone also communicated in 2016 with Trump himself.
                    What Trump has said
                    On February 12, Trump complained on Twitter about the seven- to nine-year prison sentence that prosecutors had originally recommended for Stone before being overruled by the Department of Justice. Trump added that Stone "was not even working for the Trump Campaign."
                    This claim is arguably not false if you interpret it generously. There is no evidence that Stone was working for Trump's 2020 campaign in the fall of 2017, when Stone made his false statements to Congress and engaged in the witness tampering.
                    But then Trump escalated.
                    "Roger Stone, just so you know, never worked -- he didn't work for my campaign. There might've been a time -- way early, long before I announced -- where he was somehow involved a little bit. But he was not involved in our campaign at all," Trump told reporters on February 18.
                    Trump then said in a speech February 20 that Stone was "never" involved in the Trump campaign.
                    "Roger was never involved in the Trump campaign for president. He wasn't involved. I think early on, long before I announced, he may have done a little consulting work or something, but he was not involved when I ran for president," Trump said.
                    Trump's relationship with Stone
                    The relationship between Stone and Trump goes back more than 40 years, though it has sometimes been tumultuous.
                    Stone, a veteran Republican consultant known for dirty tricks, led Trump's presidential exploratory committee when Trump was considering a run for the Reform Party's 2000 nomination.
                    As Trump suggested, Stone did do consulting work for his 2016 campaign before he announced his candidacy on June 16, 2015. Between April 2015 and May 2015, Trump's campaign paid $30,000 to a Stone company, Drake Ventures, for communications consulting, then an additional $20,000 in July 2015.
                    Stone's work did not stop upon Trump's announcement speech. On July 19, 2015, more than a month into Trump's campaign, the Wall Street Journal reported: "Mr. Trump's top strategic advisers include longtime political aide Roger Stone, who ran his 2000 presidential exploratory campaign, and a team of relative political neophytes. Nobody besides Mr. Stone in the Trump inner circle has been involved in presidential campaign at a national level before. ..."
                    Trump's campaign announced on August 8, 2015, that Stone had been fired from the campaign, with a spokesperson saying he had been seeking too much personal publicity. Stone said he wasn't fired, he quit. Regardless, his official work for the campaign lasted for 53 days after Trump's announcement speech.
                    But that was not the end of his involvement. As in the past -- "Years ago, I fired him and then he came back," Trump told The New York Times on the day of Stone's supposed firing in August 2015 -- Stone returned to Trump's circle even after he supposedly had been pushed away.
                    Stone, WikiLeaks and the Trump campaign
                    During Stone's criminal trial in 2019, multiple witnesses testified that he had been in contact with Trump and top Trump campaign officials in 2016.
                    Prosecutors introduced phone records that suggested Stone and Trump spoke repeatedly by phone in 2016 -- sometimes on the same day as important news related to WikiLeaks.
                    Stone also communicated with his former business partner and then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, then-campaign deputy chairman Rick Gates and then-campaign chief executive officer Steve Bannon. Gates and Bannon testified that Stone had communicated with them about WikiLeaks' plans to release emails hacked from Democrat Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee; Bannon testified that the campaign viewed Stone as an "access point" to WikiLeaks.
                    Gates testified that he was in an SUV with Trump in New York as Trump spoke to Stone by phone on July 31, 2016, less than two weeks after WikiLeaks had released the first trove of emails hacked from the DNC (by Russia, according to US intelligence agencies and special counsel Robert Mueller). Gates testified that, after Trump got off the phone with Stone, "he indicated more information would be coming," an apparent reference to WikiLeaks releases.
                    Stone acknowledged in his testimony to Congress that he continued to talk to Trump "from time to time" after his official departure from the campaign in August 2015, saying some conversations were brief but some could last "as long as an hour." He claimed that the conversations were about standard election matters like Trump's prospects in key states, never about WikiLeaks. (It's safe to say Stone's word here should be treated with caution: One of his five convictions for lying to Congress was about his false denial of some of his WikiLeaks-related communications with the Trump campaign.)
                    In a written answer to questions from Mueller, Trump said, "I do not recall discussing WikiLeaks with him, nor do I recall being aware of Mr. Stone having discussed WikiLeaks with individuals associated with my campaign, although I was aware that WikiLeaks was the subject of media reporting and campaign-related discussion at the time."
                    Prosecutors argued at Stone's trial that Stone had lied to Congress to protect Trump. Upon sentencing Stone, Judge Amy Berman Jackson echoed this argument, saying he was "not prosecuted, as some have complained, for standing up for the president. He was prosecuted for covering up for the president."
                    Regardless of Stone's motives, Trump's claims last week are clearly untrue. Stone worked for the campaign in the early weeks of Trump's candidacy, and he continued to be "involved" in the campaign long after the formal relationship ended.

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                    • bsm2
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                      #2740
                      Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                      Trump backers see a coronavirus conspiracy

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                      • bsm2
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                        Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                        Trump Administration Ends Food Stamps For 700,000 Unemployed Americans

                        In yet another act of gratuitous cruelty the Trump administration has issued new rules that will take food stamps away from nearly 700,000 unemployed Americans.


                        Bloomberg News reports


                        The Trump administration announced a plan Wednesday to end food-stamp benefits for about 700,000 Americans, issuing a new regulation that makes it harder for states to gain waivers from a requirement that beneficiaries work or participate in a vocational training program.

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                        • Jaws
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                          #2742
                          Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                          Obviously, BSM2 likes paying for other people to sit on their butt all day, that could be working if they had the desire. But since they get a lot of free stuff they have no desire to be a payer only a taker.

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                          • FrohnB
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                            #2743
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                            Originally posted by bsm2
                            Trump Administration Ends Food Stamps For 700,000 Unemployed Americans

                            In yet another act of gratuitous cruelty the Trump administration has issued new rules that will take food stamps away from nearly 700,000 unemployed Americans.


                            Bloomberg News reports


                            The Trump administration announced a plan Wednesday to end food-stamp benefits for about 700,000 Americans, issuing a new regulation that makes it harder for states to gain waivers from a requirement that beneficiaries work or participate in a vocational training program.
                            Wasn't this story published in early December last year? Old news. Gotta love the way they Twist things with their Headlines.

                            They aren't "Ending" anything. 700,000 is a merely a "projected number", and may not actually be that high in the end. It all depends on if some of these individuals are willing to get off their asses and work a little. If they don't want to work the 20 hours a week, then that's on THEM. Don't cry about losing benefits if you don't even try to meet the requirements. Think of it this way.......you can work the measly 20 hours, and have some cash in your pocket, on TOP of receiving those bennies. Doesn't sound too bad to me, but at the same time, if you can work 20 hours, why not just do the full time thing??? Or is it just laziness? I see people every day in my town that receive welfare benefits, who are absolutely capable of working a full time job, and lie on their applications about money earned, extra income earners in the household, lying about how often they have their children to max out foodstamps and child support, and so on. It's a pretty prevalent issue throughout the nation, and I'm glad this admin is trying to do something about it.

                            The change applies to “able-bodied adults between the ages of 18 and 49 without dependents,” according to a USDA press release. The rule change makes it more difficult for states to waive a requirement that SNAP recipients, who are considered work-eligible adults without dependents, work a minimum 20 hours a week in order to receive benefits for more than three months in a three-year period. Barring legal or legislative challenges, the rule change is expected to take effect on April 1, 2020. Per the USDA’s press release:

                            EDIT: Out of the 36 Million people who receive food stamps, 700k is literally only 2% of that number, and those 2% are probably the ones who are "cheating the system". Not a very big number, if it was divided by states, that's only 14,000 people per state that will MAYBE lose some food stamp bennies. They made this a way bigger deal than it ever should have been.
                            Omertà

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                            • bsm2
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                              #2744
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                              The 31 wildest lines from Donald Trump's self-congratulatory coronavirus press conference
                              While many Americans were sitting down to dinner on Wednesday night, President Donald Trump stepped into the White House briefing room to give the country an update on the novel coronavirus and its spread across the globe.


                              Trump delivered an opening statement and then took questions for almost an hour. And, as he does, the President veered into a wide variety of topics even while stretching the truth to the breaking point.

                              The 31 wildest lines from Donald Trump's self-congratulatory coronavirus press conference - CNNPolitics

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                              • bsm2
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                                #2745
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                                Originally posted by FrohnB
                                Wasn't this story published in early December last year? Old news. Gotta love the way they Twist things with their Headlines.

                                They aren't "Ending" anything. 700,000 is a merely a "projected number", and may not actually be that high in the end. It all depends on if some of these individuals are willing to get off their asses and work a little. If they don't want to work the 20 hours a week, then that's on THEM. Don't cry about losing benefits if you don't even try to meet the requirements. Think of it this way.......you can work the measly 20 hours, and have some cash in your pocket, on TOP of receiving those bennies. Doesn't sound too bad to me, but at the same time, if you can work 20 hours, why not just do the full time thing??? Or is it just laziness? I see people every day in my town that receive welfare benefits, who are absolutely capable of working a full time job, and lie on their applications about money earned, extra income earners in the household, lying about how often they have their children to max out foodstamps and child support, and so on. It's a pretty prevalent issue throughout the nation, and I'm glad this admin is trying to do something about it.

                                The change applies to “able-bodied adults between the ages of 18 and 49 without dependents,” according to a USDA press release. The rule change makes it more difficult for states to waive a requirement that SNAP recipients, who are considered work-eligible adults without dependents, work a minimum 20 hours a week in order to receive benefits for more than three months in a three-year period. Barring legal or legislative challenges, the rule change is expected to take effect on April 1, 2020. Per the USDA’s press release:

                                EDIT: Out of the 36 Million people who receive food stamps, 700k is literally only 2% of that number, and those 2% are probably the ones who are "cheating the system". Not a very big number, if it was divided by states, that's only 14,000 people per state that will MAYBE lose some food stamp bennies. They made this a way bigger deal than it ever should have been.

                                Glad YOU don't care it's only 2% until it's YOU!

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