Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

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  • gneebore
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    #541
    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

    Originally posted by slimslob
    When you go to Cuba, you are shown only what the Cuban government allows you to see. That is unless you wish to risk spending time in jail. The people only tell what they are allowed to say otherwise they risk being executed.

    Was going to say the same thing. For a while I did read that US citizens were able to circumvent the travel ban and catch connecting flights to Cuba while either in Honduras, Mexico or some the other Central American counties that had ties and travel routes to Cuba. If I remember the scam/method was to grant a temporary visa to any US travelers for a price. And the reports news items these people wrote about when they got back to the states confirmed Cuban authorities allowed travel to only those sections that were "proper examples of life under socialism" Read that as being similar to say Detroit only allowing reporters to spend time in the upscale and maintained sections of Detroit, and not the crumbling middle class neighborhoods being abandoned after the auto factories where the family breadwinners closed.

    I grew up in Miami in the sixties. And of course knew and spent time with a lot of refugee children and their families. They made makeshift rafts to escape Castro and his goons. Oh yeah and if they were caught by the Cuban Coast Guard or Navy they were just as likely to spend a life sentence in a "workers camp, or if a repeat offender shot. The glorification of the murderous state police and Castro by the leftist in this country is completely outrageous. To hear how they glorify Castro and his regime is about what they are doing for the groups in charge of Venezuela now. I knew of several families who lost family members to late night raids based on "reports of hoarding and spreading of capitalist propaganda " by the arrested and convicted,(then shot by firing squad), convicts as a lesson to any others that dared defy the Castro government. There may have been some improvement since the mid sixties and early seventies. Enough people die or flee and the need for food and other goods is reduced. Cuba was also propped up by the old Soviet Union as a slap in the face to the US during the later stages of the cold war.

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    • Iowatech
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      #542
      Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

      Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
      So what is going on with President Trump's trip to Florida today to campaign style announce his new policies to Cuba?

      I have been to Cuba personally three times. It is a great, inexpensive place to go for a winter vacation. I would like to go back again.

      The USA's position on Cuba has totally failed for the last 49 years. President Obama recognized that failure and tried to make moves to normalize political relations. President Trump for the last 214 days has mostly counted his success as repealing the Obama era executive orders.

      President Trump, said today, said a lot things about Cuba that are likely not going to happen about Cuba. It was more of a campaign style rally than an actual policy presentation.

      Was the real motive to appeal to his Florida base and not really care about policy?
      Huh, weak sauce, man. You're better than this.

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      • Phil B.
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        #543
        Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

        Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
        So what is going on with President Trump's trip to Florida today to campaign style announce his new policies to Cuba?

        I have been to Cuba personally three times. It is a great, inexpensive place to go for a winter vacation. I would like to go back again.

        The USA's position on Cuba has totally failed for the last 49 years. President Obama recognized that failure and tried to make moves to normalize political relations. President Trump for the last 214 days has mostly counted his success as repealing the Obama era executive orders.

        President Trump, said today, said a lot things about Cuba that are likely not going to happen about Cuba. It was more of a campaign style rally than an actual policy presentation.

        Was the real motive to appeal to his Florida base and not really care about policy?
        MOST Cubans in florida applaud his move to continue to allow people to visit.. but they can't spend money at GOVERNMENT hotels..ect... he wants monies to go to THE PEOPLE.. the monies that have been funneled to Cuba during the last days of obama went to the castro brothers... not to the people.. same with the aid relief.

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        • Ctl-Alt-Del
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          #544
          Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

          There is so much #Winning in the Trump Administration that Trump's defense lawyer has had to hire his own defense lawyer.

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          • Copier Addict
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            #545
            Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

            What any person believes is completely based on their own personal biases, unfortunately based on what their parents believed and thus those biases are perpetuated. One side can come up with info to prove one thing and the other side can come up with their own info to disprove it. The condervatards say one thing and the libtards say another. Both can't be right. Usually there is some grain of truth in rumours, so Is Trump guilty of everything that has been thrown at him, not likely. But is he completely innocent? Not likely. Hopefully time will tell.

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            • Ctl-Alt-Del
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              #546
              Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

              Originally posted by copier addict
              What any person believes is completely based on their own personal biases, unfortunately based on what their parents believed and thus those biases are perpetuated. One side can come up with info to prove one thing and the other side can come up with their own info to disprove it. The condervatards say one thing and the libtards say another. Both can't be right. Usually there is some grain of truth in rumours, so Is Trump guilty of everything that has been thrown at him, not likely. But is he completely innocent? Not likely. Hopefully time will tell.
              What isn't in dispute it that Russia hacked into our election process, they were in at least 39 different state's election systems as well as the Democratic and Republican Parties email systems, multiple US intelligence agencies do not dispute this FACT. The Republican Party currently controls all three branches of government and they are doing everything possible to not deal with Russian hacking, Why? What are they hiding? Where is the outrage from the fake patriots on the Right?



              https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...-u-s-elections

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              • theengel
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                #547
                Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                Why would there be outrage? They've always tried to influence our elections. Why would you be more outraged this year than 2012?

                We have so many counties in this country tallying their votes in different ways, it'd be impossible for them to have a real influence over the outcome of the election.

                We're the most powerful nation in the world. Everybody is trying to influence our elections.

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                • Phil B.
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                  #548
                  Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                  Originally posted by theengel
                  Why would there be outrage? They've always tried to influence our elections. Why would you be more outraged this year than 2012?

                  We have so many counties in this country tallying their votes in different ways, it'd be impossible for them to have a real influence over the outcome of the election.

                  We're the most powerful nation in the world. Everybody is trying to influence our elections.
                  they didn't hack VOTING machines.. they hacked the BOE servers and databases... voting machines are not ..." online"

                  and besides we hack other countries and they hack us.. job security for the NSA - CIA - FBI and other alphabet groups...
                  no vote tallies were changed or hurt in the hacking of the BOE.

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                  • Copier Addict
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                    #549
                    Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                    Originally posted by theengel
                    Why would there be outrage? They've always tried to influence our elections. Why would you be more outraged this year than 2012?

                    We have so many counties in this country tallying their votes in different ways, it'd be impossible for them to have a real influence over the outcome of the election.

                    We're the most powerful nation in the world. Everybody is trying to influence our elections.
                    Why wouldn't there be outrage??? I know if I found out it happened here I wouldn't be pleased. Also, he didn't say he was any less or more outraged between the two elections, not sure why you would assume that.

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                    • NeoMatrix
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                      #550
                      Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                      Originally posted by Ctl-Alt-Del
                      What isn't in dispute it that Russia hacked into our election process, they were in at least 39 different state's election systems as well as the Democratic and Republican Parties email systems, multiple US intelligence agencies do not dispute this FACT. The Republican Party currently controls all three branches of government and they are doing everything possible to not deal with Russian hacking, Why? What are they hiding? Where is the outrage from the fake patriots on the Right?



                      https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/a...-u-s-elections
                      Re: Terrorist on the inside or outside:
                      If you believe that electronic devices cannot be hacked or interfered with than think again.

                      Just last week on our local media TV screens, the gov't (ASIO/FED) stated publicly they can shut down all mobile phones inside a sports stadium area, and SMS peoples phones to guide them to the nearest safe exit. The fact the FED can interfere with everyone's communications is proof of point on its own that large scale hacking is fact.

                      Who declares the such-n-such stadium exit to be in a safe zone in any case?
                      Who has the foresight knowledge to declare what area is safe?

                      What's to stop other terrorists from hacking Wi-Fi and mobile phones exactly the same as the FED? What's to stop these "hackers" from changing electronic voter records or influencing peoples general choices or, much worse....

                      Can a terrorist organisation also hack SMS and declare an area is safe?
                      Please all evacuate to the designated bomb locations. Move in an orderly fashion the bombs have pre-set timers.

                      The world is moving at a fast pace. Technology is moving faster...
                      The younger people see progress as normal, the older people struggle to even understand it.
                      Last edited by NeoMatrix; 06-21-2017, 12:02 AM.
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                      • SalesServiceGuy
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                        #551
                        Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                        I preferred Cuba to Florida as a vacation. I was in Havana in the north, in the middle and the south. Cuba was a better value, very safe, more exotic and the people were very friendly. Coastal Florida seems like an endless strip mall or condo development. I had to seek out Florida's National Parks to escape it all.

                        Certainly, the local ketchup seems odd and the choices are not as great, forget your cell phone (roaming charges are too high), internet is sparse. Baseball is big. You are free to walk around or take a guided tour. Crime is nil. Guns are zero.

                        People often go to Cuba to take advantage of their speedy high quality, affordable healthcare with no wait times and extended time to recuperate.

                        A lot of the Cuba stereotypes described earlier in this thread are from people who have never been there.

                        I know Florida is polarized with pro and anti Cuba sentiment but it has been a long time and the US sanctions are really not working. Time to move on and normalize relations.

                        Cuba has moved off the USA headlines and most of what President Trump said when he was in Florida was campaign style rhetoric to appeal to his base of voters.

                        A CBS poll from today puts President Trump's approval rating at 36% among 1117 respondents.

                        A poll aggregator of multiple current polls puts him at 38.7%

                        At this point in time, approx 150 days into his presidency, Obama's approval rating was in the range of 54-58% approval according to the far right leaning Rasmussen Reports. Rasmussen reports President Trump at 48%. President Trump often prefers to quote Rasmussen Report polling data even though many professional pollsters considers the data to be unreliable.

                        Gallup Polls places Trump at 38%. Trump's lowest Gallup poll ratings have been at 35%.
                        Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 06-21-2017, 02:29 AM.

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                        • SalesServiceGuy
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                          #552
                          Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                          Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                          Re: Terrorist on the inside or outside:
                          If you believe that electronic devices cannot be hacked or interfered with than think again.

                          Just last week on our local media TV screens, the gov't (ASIO/FED) stated publicly they can shut down all mobile phones inside a sports stadium area, and SMS peoples phones to guide them to the nearest safe exit. The fact the FED can interfere with everyone's communications is proof of point on its own that large scale hacking is fact.

                          Who declares the such-n-such stadium exit to be in a safe zone in any case?
                          Who has the foresight knowledge to declare what area is safe?

                          What's to stop other terrorists from hacking Wi-Fi and mobile phones exactly the same as the FED? What's to stop these "hackers" from changing electronic voter records or influencing peoples general choices or, much worse....

                          Can a terrorist organisation also hack SMS and declare an area is safe?
                          Please all evacuate to the designated bomb locations. Move in an orderly fashion the bombs have pre-set timers.

                          The world is moving at a fast pace. Technology is moving faster...
                          The younger people see progress as normal, the older people struggle to even understand it.


                          There is a technology out there called Stingray that spoofs a cell phone tower. You can park a van (with antennas) outside an office tower, turn the Sting Ray on and redirect, record and monitor all of the the cell phone traffic from nearby cell phones.

                          When operating in active mode, the Stingray device mimics a wireless carrier cell tower in order to force all nearby mobile phones and other cellular devices to connect to it.




                          The StingRay is an IMSI-catcher, a controversial cellular phone surveillance device, manufactured by Harris Corporation. Initially developed for the military and intelligence community, the StingRay and similar Harris devices are in widespread use by local and state law enforcement agencies across the United States, Canada and Europe.

                          A new innovation can even mount a Stringray on a drone.

                          I have read that these devices can be purchased on the black market and in Europe with relative ease.

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                          • NeoMatrix
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                            #553
                            Re: Just how Crazy is Donald Trump!

                            Ha... Here I was thinking only Rupert Murdoch had those devices in his organisation....

                            The amount of free mobile phones and free entire television(TV's) offers I've seen over the years.
                            There was always something slightly pungent about the free mobile phone or free TV offer.
                            The free phone an TV offers are very old documented scams for accessing personal data.

                            Adds to the saying "If something's to good to be true, it probably is."
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                            • theengel
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                              #554
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                              Why wouldn't there be outrage??? I know if I found out it happened here I wouldn't be pleased. Also, he didn't say he was any less or more outraged between the two elections, not sure why you would assume that.
                              Well no one brought it up before. Now, that's all any of the news stations are talking about. Yet we know they've been doing it since the cold war.

                              SalesServiceGuy, you're a despicable excuse for a human being. I'm glad you're in Canada.

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                              • SalesServiceGuy
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                                #555
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                                I think you need to add some multi-vitamins to your diet.

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