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  • Copier Addict
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    #1471
    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

    No, i understand that you pulled that statement out your ass .
    I don't think you do understand. You really need to work on your anger. Cut back on the steroids

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    • slimslob
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      #1472
      Originally posted by Copier Addict


      Do you even know what Slim and I were talking about, or do you just mention Biden in every post?

      He said in 1977 if people had plugged in their electric car it would have brought down the grid. I said if everyone in 1977 had a battery powered car, the grid would have been engineered to withstand it. Those steroids must be going to your head. Lay off
      And I pointed out that you were wrong about the stability of the electrical transmission grid.

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      • Copier Addict
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        #1473
        Originally posted by slimslob

        And I pointed out that you were wrong about the stability of the electrical transmission grid.
        Yes, the current grid would not sustain it. But if battery powered cars and the electrical grid had evolved together, the grid would be far more stable.

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        • BillyCarpenter
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          #1474
          Originally posted by Copier Addict

          Yes, the current grid would not sustain it. But if battery powered cars and the electrical grid had evolved together, the grid would be far more stable.
          Yeah, because the government has been so damn great at planning ahead. For instance, just look at covid.
          Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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          • Mako
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            #1475
            I don't know where all these dim bulbs thing all this electricity would come from. When was the last time a major power plant was built in the US?

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            • SalesServiceGuy
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              #1476
              .... with the massive increase in data centers due to the high compute demands of AI, the limits of the current electrical grid have never been made more clear.

              The electricity is needed now and cannot wait another 10+ years for a potential major power plant to be built in the USA.

              Hopefully this power plant will not rely on fossil fuels.

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              • Copier Addict
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                #1477
                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                Yeah, because the government has been so damn great at planning ahead. For instance, just look at covid.
                Yeah, just look at Texas. The temperature drops below 60° and the whole grid goes down

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                • BillyCarpenter
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                  #1478
                  Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                  .... with the massive increase in data centers due to the high compute demands of AI, the limits of the current electrical grid have never been made more clear.

                  The electricity is needed now and cannot wait another 10+ years for a potential major power plant to be built in the USA.

                  Hopefully this power plant will not rely on fossil fuels.
                  I don't think you're really serious about improving warming or power. If you were, you'd call for nuclear and Canada hasn't bujlt a new one in about 30 years. Most libs were rather watch the planet burn before nuclear power.
                  Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                  • Copier Addict
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                    #1479
                    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                    I don't think you're really serious about improving warming or power. If you were, you'd call for nuclear and Canada hasn't bujlt a new one in about 30 years. Most libs were rather watch the planet burn before nuclear power.
                    Oh, you must have forgotten already. Remember when I told you that Ontario recently spent billions refurbishing the world's second largest nuclear power plant?

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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      #1480
                      Originally posted by Copier Addict

                      Oh, you must have forgotten already. Remember when I told you that Ontario recently spent billions refurbishing the world's second largest nuclear power plant?
                      What part of NO NEW nuclear plants have been built? Bozo.
                      Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                      • SalesServiceGuy
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                        #1481
                        Energy chief suggests Trump administration is altering previously published climate reports


                        Energy Sec. Chris Wright said Tuesday night the Trump administration is updating the National Climate Assessments that have been previously published, which the administration recently removed from government websites.

                        “We’re reviewing them, and we will come out with updated reports on those and with comments on those reports,” Wright told CNN’s Kaitlan Collins in an interview on “The Source.”

                        Wright dismissed the past reports, saying “they weren’t fair in broad-based assessments of climate change.”

                        “When you get into departments and look at stuff that’s there and you find stuff that’s objectionable, you want to fix it,” he said.

                        Energy spokesperson Andrea Woods said, “The National Climate Reports are published by NOAA, not DOE. He was not suggesting he personally would be altering past reports.”

                        The interagency process and publication is overseen by the US Global Change Research Program, which was established by Congress.

                        The National Climate Assessments are congressionally mandated research reports authored by hundreds of scientists and experts, intended to inform the country of the latest climate science and the current and future impacts of climate change in the US. The reports take years to research, draft and publish and go through multiple rounds of peer review, with all 13 federal agencies that conduct climate research. An independent National Academy of Sciences panel signs off on the content.

                        The first Trump administration signed off on and released the Fourth US National Climate Assessment in 2018, although it attempted to bury the report’s news by releasing it on Black Friday. The current administration has deleted all previous reports from government websites, fired the scientists working on the next iteration of the report, and recently issued a separate report compiled by five researchers that questioned the severity of climate change.

                        Altering or revising previously published assessments would be a significant escalation in the administration’s attempts to wipe credible climate science off the record.

                        “That would be a very unusual approach, especially given the process that went into creating these,” said scientist Zeke Hausfather, the climate research lead at financial services company Stripe, who helped author the Fifth National Climate Assessment.

                        Wright played a large role in commissioning a new federal report that questioned the severity of climate change, authored by five researchers who are well-known climate contrarians. The report was issued last week, in conjunction with a proposed regulatory repeal of the Environmental Protection Agency’s “endangerment finding,” a 2009 scientific finding that human-caused climate change endangers human health and safety.

                        Wright told CNN that he hand-picked the four researchers and one economist who authored the Trump administration report: John Christy and Roy Spencer, both research scientists at the University of Alabama at Huntsville, Steven E. Koonin of Stanford University’s Hoover Institution, Georgia Tech professor emeritus Judith Curry and Canadian economist Ross McKitrick.

                        “I just made a list of who do I think are the true, honest scientists,” Wright said. “I made a list of about a dozen of them that I thought were very senior and very well respected. I called the top five, and everyone said yes.”

                        Compared to the National Climate Assessments and international climate science reports that take years to compile and review, the recent DOE report took just two months to produce. It is now undergoing a public comment process.

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                        • Copier Addict
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                          #1482
                          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter

                          What part of NO NEW nuclear plants have been built? Bozo.
                          The refurbishment has increased the power being generated. That's new power.
                          Your anger is becoming an issue, dude. You really need to calm down

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                          • Mako
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                            #1483
                            I wonder what the effect is on climate change due to those shitbirds up in Canada sending catastrophic pollution into the atmosphere from all of their forest fires. Those fires are making more pollution than every car in the NorthEastern United States makes in a year.

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                              #1484
                              Originally posted by Mako
                              I wonder what the effect is on climate change due to those shitbirds up in Canada sending catastrophic pollution into the atmosphere from all of their forest fires. Those fires are making more pollution than every car in the NorthEastern United States makes in a year.
                              Yes, the faster the climate changes, the dryer the forests get. The dryer the forests get, the more likely they are to burn. And when they burn they add more carbon.

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                              • Mako
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                                #1485
                                Originally posted by Copier Addict

                                Yes, the faster the climate changes, the dryer the forests get. The dryer the forests get, the more likely they are to burn. And when they burn they add more carbon.
                                I heard on the radio this morning that the authoritarian government in Nova Scotia banned walking, hiking, fishing and camping in the woods. What a stupid country.

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