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  • gneebore
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    #16
    Re: Do you believe in medical marijuana?

    Originally posted by copier addict
    Medical marijuana is bred for specific purposes. People think it gets you high, but this not necessarily the case.
    Growers will vary the concentrations of both the CBD and the THC to give the wanted results, whether it is for pain, appetite enhancement, etc.
    It is the recreational marijuana that is bred for the high. One of the main concerns with modern recreational marijuana is the fact that growers will breed the CBD out the the plants so there is no moderating of the psychoactive effects of the THC
    I understand the differing properties being gained by selective plantings. Heck that was a big part of the strains being brought to the mainland from Hawaii in the past. That wonderful strain called Maui Wowee because it was stronger and you got a better, longer high from it than the local stuff. There will always be people that are going to abuse any substance that produces any form of altered state. Heck there are people that abuse aspirin and sleeping pills. There are even people that are so far gone as alcoholics they try drinking rubbing alcohol. Not for very long mind you because that stuff will put your butt in a hospital if you take it internally.

    Or the really stupid nonsense going on now. You know the Tide pod challenge. Idiots on the internet biting down on Tide pods. Some actually swallowing the soap. Hell there are warning labels on the package that the pod contents are not to be taken internally. But soon enough there is probably going to be a class action lawsuit blaming Tide for producing the pods small enough to be bitten into by people.

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    • theengel
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      #17
      Re: Do you believe in medical marijuana?

      Weed has no anesthetic properties, the way opiates do. It doesn't actually kill pain.

      That being said, it has other benefits. It relaxes people, physically and mentally. Obviously, it helps cancer patients after their treatments. It kills back spasms and other back problems that are muscle related.

      All the regular pot smokers that I know are unmotivated and lazy.

      What pot doesn't do, is make you 10 feet tall and bulletproof. I don't understand why recreational alcohol is legal and recreational weed isn't. It's an arbitrary standard.

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      • gneebore
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        Re: Do you believe in medical marijuana?

        Originally posted by theengel
        Weed has no anesthetic properties, the way opiates do. It doesn't actually kill pain.

        That being said, it has other benefits. It relaxes people, physically and mentally. Obviously, it helps cancer patients after their treatments. It kills back spasms and other back problems that are muscle related.

        All the regular pot smokers that I know are unmotivated and lazy.

        What pot doesn't do, is make you 10 feet tall and bulletproof. I don't understand why recreational alcohol is legal and recreational weed isn't. It's an arbitrary standard.
        No it doesn't make you feel ten feet tall and bullet proof. But it has other hallucinatory effects that can be just as bad or worse. Like the moron a few years ago that drove while high and was finally involved in a crash. He was running red lights because according to the witnesses he told everyone he was flying anyway and didn't need to stop for the traffic lights. That was an admittedly extreme example. Worst experience I can remember was a friend in high school that almost died when he was higher than a kite and thought he could just step over to the other side of the room. Problem was he was on a second floor balcony and his short cut was to climb over the useless railing and fell to the first floor.

        Oh yeah I do remember how easy it actually was to get marijuana while I was a teen. Plus it had an amazing thing going for something that was illegal too. It was real cheap compared to heroin or cocaine and other hard drugs. Yeah some friends bragged how they scored an ounce for two bucks back then. The biggest reason I never really got started doing the whole drug scene was a guy in one of my classes was a real "they are lying to you about how bad all the drugs are" shill. Constantly went on on how safe everything the teacher and the fuzz were lying about to keep kids from experiencing the safe and wonderful highs you could get from smoking weed and using cocaine and heroin. Well seems Mr I Know more that they do overdosed and died from a speedball. He mixed cocaine and heroin and injected that combo. Kind of put a different spin on using the stuff if an advocate for how safe the stuff is dies from using it.

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        • Copier Addict
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          #19
          Re: Do you believe in medical marijuana?

          Originally posted by theengel
          Weed has no anesthetic properties, the way opiates do. It doesn't actually kill pain.

          That being said, it has other benefits. It relaxes people, physically and mentally. Obviously, it helps cancer patients after their treatments. It kills back spasms and other back problems that are muscle related.

          All the regular pot smokers that I know are unmotivated and lazy.

          What pot doesn't do, is make you 10 feet tall and bulletproof. I don't understand why recreational alcohol is legal and recreational weed isn't. It's an arbitrary standard.
          It sure gets prescribed for pain, so I would suggest it kills pain. Absolutely not like opioids do in the fact that marijuana is non addictive.
          It is safer than alcohol as a recreational intoxicant. Especially if ingested rather than smoked.

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          • theengel
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            Re: Do you believe in medical marijuana?

            Well, I've never ingested it, but I smoked my share. I can't ever remember weed making something less painful... not physically, anyway. Except for my back pain sometimes. My muscles would be relaxed and I wouldn't get spasm pain.

            Weed also helps people with RLS. Extreme cases of this can be pretty difficult to live with. I've gone 48 hours without being able to sleep because of restless legs.

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            • SalesServiceGuy
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              Two big news trends in Canada this week for marijuana distribution.

              1). The Bank of Montreal, one of Canada's "big six" banks, have agreed to underwrite a $175 million stock offering to Canopy Growth Corp., Canada's largest producer of medical marijuana.

              “This is the first time a major Canadian bank-owned brokerage has participated in a cannabis securities issue,”

              http://business.financialpost.com/investing/bank-of-montreal-marks-first-for-major-canadian-lenders-with-175m-marijuana-deal

              2). Shopper's Drug Mart, Canada's largest chain of drug stores has reached agreement with three medical marijuana producers to supply product. Shopper's Drug Mart does not yet have a license to sell medical marijuana but did apply to the Health Canada for one in Oct 2016 via its parent company Loblaws.

              Shoppers Drug Mart signs medical cannabis supply deal with Tilray Canada - Article - BNN

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              • gneebore
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                Re: Do you believe in medical marijuana?

                Originally posted by theengel
                Well, I've never ingested it, but I smoked my share. I can't ever remember weed making something less painful... not physically, anyway. Except for my back pain sometimes. My muscles would be relaxed and I wouldn't get spasm pain.

                Weed also helps people with RLS. Extreme cases of this can be pretty difficult to live with. I've gone 48 hours without being able to sleep because of restless legs.
                Well speaking about the medical uses of marijuana we have a new use being advanced. Unexpected but here is a link explaining the new use.
                Company Selling 'Marijuana Tampons' To Ease Horrible Period Cramps

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                • sturmtrooper
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                  #23
                  Re: Do you believe in medical marijuana?

                  I believe in legalizing all currently illegal substances. The war on drugs has probably cost far more lives than the War on Terror has.

                  Every state already bans driving while "intoxicated" regardless of what the intoxicant is. You crash and kill someone it doesn't matter if you're hopped up on pills booze or weed, that person is still just as dead.

                  One problem I do see is that there is not currently a way to tell if someone was high on marijuana at the time of an accident vs having used it in the last few weeks.

                  Having said that it will be a huge uphill battle vs many special interests to ever make that happen.

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                  • slimslob
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                    #24
                    Re: Do you believe in medical marijuana?

                    I believe that all governments needs to allow testing to determine what components are actually effective and the most effective method of delivery. That will maximum benefit to the patient.

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                    • Phil B.
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                      Re: Do you believe in medical marijuana?

                      Manhattan DA to Stop Prosecuting for Marijuana Possession

                      New York City officials are taking a more permissive stance on marijuana use within the city, citing both racial concerns and a shift in public sentiment as the primary reasons.
                      Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. announced the new policy, which will take effect in August and drastically reduce the number of prosecutions for marijuana possession and use.

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                      • SalesServiceGuy
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                        Both medical and recreational marijuana became legal across Canada today with different rules for purchase and carry in each province.

                        The provincial governments are almost giddy with the prospect of major new revenue streams and many investors have made a lot of money.

                        To me it is quite the concept that it is now legal for me to go into my Provincial Liquor Commission (liquor sold in private stores in mostly not allowed) and buy a six pack of beer and a six pack of pre-rolled (or loose) joints and it is all legal. If you can't get out of the house, the Gov't will even make it easy to arrange home delivery.

                        My employer sent me today a new alcohol and cannabis policy guide which I had to read, sign and send back. Serious violations could result in termination.

                        I was installing a new copier in a National chain hotel today and of course I had to ask the Manager what the hotel's new policy was.

                        He responded that the complete hotel was non smoking and you were not allowed to smoke tobacco, marijuana or vapor within 50' of the front door. He said people often inhaled just outside the front door and sometimes the odor would be on their clothes as they re-entered the hotel and linger in their rooms.

                        He then went on to tell me that he suffered from anxiety in the past and was prescribed some fairly heavy pharmaceutical drugs which worked but had some bad side effects on him and were expensive. He then told me that he went into a private cannabis clinic and was recommended a vape pen loaded with a specific strain of non recreational marijuana. He was almost instantly cured, had no bad side effects and the cost went way done.

                        He also said some quests were challenging him on the hotel's non smoking rule claiming that they carried a medical marijuana card and the hotel was essentially denying them their human rights to take their medication where ever they required. He said it was complicated and was hoping for better advice from head office.

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                        • SalesServiceGuy
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                          While marijuana users welcomed the world of new choices now on offer, one Nova Scotian took a moment to reflect wistfully late Tuesday night while puffing.

                          Canadians welcome legal pot sales, put up with supply issues on opening day | CBC News

                          She called the moment "bittersweet," and said pot had long brought people together in a "weird instant community," something that will likely change with legalization.

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                          • fixthecopier
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                            #28
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                            I would like to take this moment to congradulate Pot for winning the war on drugs.
                            The greatest enemy of knowledge isn't ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge. Stephen Hawking

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                            • NeoMatrix
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                              #29
                              Re: Do you believe in medical marijuana?

                              Medical marijuana Legislation has passed through gov't here in Australia.
                              There are companies that have been openly growing medical marijuana for about 12-18months, according to local news broadcasts.

                              The case for future medical use is now wide open here in Australia.
                              Will "medi-juana" reduce a persons medical problems, or move the symptomatic problem to one side to revisit the problem another day?
                              Will medi-juana create another problem due to long term use?
                              I have seen previous old associates who have used marijuana on a daily basis.
                              Teetering on permanent paranoia is just one of the known problems of daily marijuana use.

                              I also know that marijuana is good for people with eyesight problems. It relaxes the blood vessels in the eye and problems can abate. You can purchase eye drops rendered from marijuana. (or smoke it)

                              In Australia we use to call ourselves the "Lucky Country".
                              Only recent there was a large govt' advertisement campaign to call Australia the "Clever Country".
                              I wonder if people will begin to call Australia the "Huh! Stoned Country"?

                              I'm neither "for" nor "against" the use of medi-juana.
                              (I know, my scrotum is going to hurt if I sit a leg either side of the fence for too long.
                              But I can always relieve the pain with medijuana)
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                              • SalesServiceGuy
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                                Medical marijuana (CBD) is poised to become a major disruptor to the Big Pharma drug industry potentially threatening losses of up to $18B in sales.

                                Referred to as "biologics" by Big Pharma, the major industry players are split in their opposition or acceptance of the rapidly growing public acceptance of this alternate medicinal approach.

                                The Food and Drug Administration’s recent announcement of the approval of Epidiolex sent shock waves through the pharmaceutical industry. The drug, approved for certain rare forms of epilepsy, is the first one “comprised of an active ingredient derived from marijuana” to be approved by the administration. The announcement signals a historic shift from another federal entity, the Drug Enforcement Administration, which is expected to reclassify cannabidiol (CBD) for medical use. Both developments will impact the pharmaceutical industry and the medical marijuana industry for years to come.

                                https://cmr.berkeley.edu/blog/2018/7/medical-marijuana/


                                Even Coca Cola has begun testing medical marijuana infused drinks when edibles become legal in the Canadian market approx one year from now.

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSrmbfNq8hM

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