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  • roho
    Senior Tech

    500+ Posts
    • Mar 2009
    • 844

    #16
    Re: recognize this?

    Originally posted by copier addict
    What's wrong with a folded up piece of paper for cheating door switches?
    You must have never worked with some of my old colleagues, some of those clowns would have the paper fall in and not remove the cover to take it out. Nothing like bent door switches, springs to cause intermittent jams as the customer leans on the front cover. Other then that........................................

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    • roho
      Senior Tech

      500+ Posts
      • Mar 2009
      • 844

      #17
      Re: recognize this?

      Originally posted by 20 year tech
      recognize this ?
      if so when was the last time you saw one ? if ever lol [ATTACH]41018[/ATTACH]
      I can remember the first tv commercial explaining fax machines using geese walking from one machine to the other. The spokesman was a 70's sitcom actor who then asked if he could send over linked sausages. Wasn't in the industry then either.

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      • bbrissette
        Junior Member
        • Jan 2018
        • 2

        #18
        Re: recognize this?

        I still have all 3 of the cheaters

        And paper was never a good idea it would catch and bend the microswitch arm instead I used different sizes of rubber tubing

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        • NeoMatrix
          Senior Tech.

          2,500+ Posts
          • Nov 2010
          • 3514

          #19
          Re: recognize this?

          Originally posted by 20 year tech
          recognize this ?
          if so when was the last time you saw one ? if ever lol [ATTACH]41018[/ATTACH]
          .... Document was dated 1972.

          In 1972 we still had operator assisted phone exchange at the post office. Operators would plug a phono jack and cable in to a matrix grid on the wall. The operator would have to physically assist the connection of two parties before a phone call could proceed.

          I'm amazed that fax was even invented at that point in history. The document said could you use this "facility", I'm wondering if the fax equipment filled a small room.
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          • gneebore
            Senior Tech

            500+ Posts
            • Feb 2010
            • 555

            #20
            Re: recognize this?

            Originally posted by NeoMatrix
            .... Document was dated 1972.

            In 1972 we still had operator assisted phone exchange at the post office. Operators would plug a phono jack and cable in to a matrix grid on the wall. The operator would have to physically assist the connection of two parties before a phone call could proceed.

            I'm amazed that fax was even invented at that point in history. The document said could you use this "facility", I'm wondering if the fax equipment filled a small room.
            Just to really set you back on your heels the fax was actually invented in the 1840's. I was floored when I read about this originally. But here is a link with the history of the fax.

            Fax Machine History

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            • Vincent128
              Trusted Tech

              Site Contributor
              250+ Posts
              • Sep 2015
              • 346

              #21
              Re: recognize this?

              Originally posted by copier addict
              What's wrong with a folded up piece of paper for cheating door switches?
              Because it unfolds and gets stuck...use a block of soft packing foam or a folded bit of silicone tubing !

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              • BLADE
                former propeller tester

                250+ Posts
                • Dec 2009
                • 478

                #22
                Re: recognize this?

                Originally posted by copier addict
                What's wrong with a folded up piece of paper for cheating door switches?
                and it also doubles as a skewed copy correction when placed under a corner or jammed in a guide

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                • monarke4
                  Trusted Tech

                  Site Contributor
                  100+ Posts
                  • Oct 2018
                  • 185

                  #23
                  Re: recognize this?

                  Originally posted by 20 year tech
                  recognize this ?
                  if so when was the last time you saw one ? if ever lol [ATTACH]41018[/ATTACH]
                  Think if the "original" facsimile machine was shown....

                  I'm a big fan of Carl Lewis and his interesting inventions....

                  The Secret Life Of Machines - The Fax Machine
                  YouTube

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                  • Copier Addict
                    Aging Tech

                    Site Contributor
                    10,000+ Posts
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 14487

                    #24
                    Re: recognize this?

                    Originally posted by Vincent128
                    Because it unfolds and gets stuck...use a block of soft packing foam or a folded bit of silicone tubing !
                    Paper is plentiful in my line of work. Lol It seems to do the trick quite nicely.

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                    • tsbservice
                      Field tech

                      Site Contributor
                      5,000+ Posts
                      • May 2007
                      • 7965

                      #25
                      Re: recognize this?

                      Originally posted by copyman
                      I remember using different interlock jigs back in the analog days. No use for interlock jigs anymore. Main reason jigs were used was to watch operation, paper travel for jamming, coronas coming on, etc. Nowadays in most copiers you can't see much when leaving front door open and jumping the interlock.

                      I just came across a jig that held up the clamshells so they didn't fall on your hand while working on machine. Looks like it clipped on the shock rod. As the old timers probably remember the shocks never held the copiers open. Back then my long phillips screwdriver was used more to hold "clamshells" up then for screws!
                      Absolutely right.
                      Intsead screwdriver I was using machine own toner bag with their cap on(didn't crumple toner bag) plus give you more safety, screwdrivers are easy to slip out.
                      Last edited by tsbservice; 11-10-2018, 04:23 PM.
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                      • blackcat4866
                        Master Of The Obvious

                        Site Contributor
                        10,000+ Posts
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 22997

                        #26
                        Re: recognize this?

                        Originally posted by copyman
                        I remember using different interlock jigs back in the analog days. No use for interlock jigs anymore. Main reason jigs were used was to watch operation, paper travel for jamming, coronas coming on, etc. Nowadays in most copiers you can't see much when leaving front door open and jumping the interlock.

                        I just came across a jig that held up the clamshells so they didn't fall on your hand while working on machine. Looks like it clipped on the shock rod. As the old timers probably remember the shocks never held the copiers open. Back then my long phillips screwdriver was used more to hold "clamshells" up then for screws!
                        I had a wooden dowel to prop up the clamshells. It reminds me of a leg trap. The shock is holding, holding, holding, ... it seems OK ... you just don't know when it going to drop on your hand. I don't know if I still have it, Mita made an OEM prop for the DC-152, DC-1655, DC-1755. With the DF option the 1755 smashed a lot of hands. =^..^=
                        If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                        1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                        2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                        3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                        4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                        5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                        blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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                        • Geo
                          Senior Tech

                          500+ Posts
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 662

                          #27
                          Re: recognize this?

                          Originally posted by blackcat4866
                          I had a wooden dowel to prop up the clamshells. It reminds me of a leg trap. The shock is holding, holding, holding, ... it seems OK ... you just don't know when it going to drop on your hand. I don't know if I still have it, Mita made an OEM prop for the DC-152, DC-1655, DC-1755. With the DF option the 1755 smashed a lot of hands. =^..^=

                          Ahh..The good old days...

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                          • NeoMatrix
                            Senior Tech.

                            2,500+ Posts
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3514

                            #28
                            Re: recognize this?

                            Originally posted by blackcat4866
                            I had a wooden dowel to prop up the clamshells. It reminds me of a leg trap. The shock is holding, holding, holding, ... it seems OK ... you just don't know when it going to drop on your hand. I don't know if I still have it, Mita made an OEM prop for the DC-152, DC-1655, DC-1755. With the DF option the 1755 smashed a lot of hands. =^..^=
                            Yep!....
                            Jamb a long handle screw driver up under the clam shell strut to stop the upper frame from coming down on your hand.

                            Ye ol' Toshiba's were a clam shell design. From the service tech point of view, the clam shell made servicing machines a tad quicker and parts removal a lot easier. Some of the old Canons were clam shell design too. Canon NP210 rings a bell.

                            I preferred working on clam shell machines, it could reduce your busy service schedule down by an hour per day.
                            Which got me home a couple of hours earlier if I was working out of town for a few days. I'd get home around 7pm instead of 9pm.

                            Re. long hours:
                            I've done my years of long arduous cold thankless work schedules that no one knows I've done, an no one gives a hoot either way. <add violins>
                            Inauguration to the "AI cancel-culture" fraternity 1997...
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                            • blackcat4866
                              Master Of The Obvious

                              Site Contributor
                              10,000+ Posts
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 22997

                              #29
                              Re: recognize this?

                              Originally posted by NeoMatrix
                              Re. long hours:
                              I've done my years of long arduous cold thankless work schedules that no one knows I've done, an no one gives a hoot either way. <add violins>
                              There for a while (1989-1995) I would plan PMs at the print shops for the 5:00-10:00pm time window. This worked as well for companies with 2nd and 3rd shifts.

                              No, there was no overtime. It was the only way to get the work done. But, alas, it went unrecognized and 16 hour got days get old really quickly. When I got an offer to switch employers I vowed that I wouldn't do that anymore. That was when I started the database. It consumed 25 hours a week, but at least it was home time. =^..^=
                              If you'd like a serious answer to your request:
                              1) demonstrate that you've read the manual
                              2) demonstrate that you made some attempt to fix it.
                              3) if you're going to ask about jams include the jam code.
                              4) if you're going to ask about an error code include the error code.
                              5) You are the person onsite. Only you can make observations.

                              blackcat: Master Of The Obvious =^..^=

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