[People] ISSUES: Ethical , Moral , Legal ,Justified

[NeoMatrix]

Human Gene splicing, The path to super humans.

I believe that this Human Gene splicing topic is of supreme importance.
There should be world wide condemnation of any organization for altering the genetic DNA of any living entity, animal ,vegetable or mineral.

If this DNA modification horror is left to go full term it could bring about a master/slave race unto the earth that would make the fires an brimstone of hades seem like a sunday pinic.

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Birth of world's first gene-edited babies triggers ethical outcry

[Phil B.]

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Human Gene splicing, The path to super humans.
I believe that this Human Gene splicing topic is of supreme importance.
There should be world wide condemnation of any organization for altering the genetic DNA of any living entity, animal ,vegetable or mineral.
If this DNA modification horror is left to go full term it could bring about a master/slave race unto the earth that would make the fires an brimstone of hades seem like a sunday pinic.
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Birth of world's first gene-edited babies triggers ethical outcry

my faith tells me "not to mess with God's work". How MUCH has the human species messed up their: lives - planet - others - morals- ethics -values? nope..dinny wanna live to 100!

[copyman]

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I don't have a problem with it if it relates to finding medical cures, i.e. immunotherapy for cancer, etc.

On the other hand if you do it to make a boy or girl, or if you want your kid to be bigger for sports, etc then I'm against it. That is where you cross the line of God and will pay the price!

[allan]

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Wonder if they will be dosed with HIV to prove it.....

DNA mutation thru our own toxic creations comes along for some time now.

[20 year tech]

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A dangerous line crossed there, genetically modified foods were the beginning but I believe the genie came out of the bottle when they started cloning animals. now that human genes have been tampered with in a live experiment... all bets are off. agree with the world wide condemnation but that wont change anything unfortunately.

[NeoMatrix]

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Re. DNA modification.
The question will remain for ever more.
What will people do for the value of money and/or fame.....????

What Frankenstein creation will they off load onto themselves as well as all others in the name of science.
The DNA gene splicers have opened Pandora's box and seen the invitation welcome map for the highway to hell.
Do the current DNA scientists have the moral fortitude to put their science curiosity aside
and let nature take its natural cause? Something tells me their excitement and ego driven research will need to be satisfied.

If they knew the potential horrors of playing with the natural order of creation, they would slam the lid down on their research an put 10,000 welded locks and chains on Pandoras box ,seal the box in concrete, and send it on the next space flight into the sun.

The highway to hell has been paved with many a good mans intention.

So be it...

[NeoMatrix]

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A dangerous line crossed there, genetically modified foods were the beginning but I believe the genie came out of the bottle when they started cloning animals. now that human genes have been tampered with in a live experiment... all bets are off. agree with the world wide condemnation but that wont change anything unfortunately.

Re. GM foods.

The universal creation sings with a chorus of precise mathematical rhythms and harmonious tunes.
When man intervenes with his creational curiosity those rhythms and tunes are no longer in perfect harmony and
nothing but noisy sperrious babble is the product. The out of sync tunes created by DNA and GM modification produce serious problems for mankind.

[20 year tech]

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Kind of curious as this is a global forum have any of you folks outside of the US noticed that GM foods are everywhere or is it a US thing ? I have been trying to get away from GM foods. to make an example just buying Iced tea 5 of 6 contained GM ingredients. WTF ICED TEA !!

[NeoMatrix]

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Kind of curious as this is a global forum have any of you folks outside of the US noticed that GM foods are everywhere or is it a US thing ? I have been trying to get away from GM foods. to make an example just buying Iced tea 5 of 6 contained GM ingredients. WTF ICED TEA !!

Ask the guys from New Zealand.
NZ has the most relaxed social laws for GM foods.

If my information is correct New Zealand is used for all global corporation Guinea pig Food and Drug experiments on their populations. Australia follows a close second with its medical guinea pig products and procedures.

The medical feed back from global corporations food drug, procedural experiments are channel back out of other countries to the private global companies through bogus University fronts and research grants.

The Australian government openly allows the private medical history of individual people to leave Australia through the University feed back system in the name of research. Global corporations have a closed loop system for testing food and medical procedures. As I see it. The feed back from other countries provides a protection and safe path for global enterprise to fine tune and continue their experimental procedures with out lawful repercussions.

If my information is correct.
The global seed companies are now owning patents for all native seeds and GM seeds in New Zealand.

We are living in challenging times. The word Corporate profit is not an anagram of God.

[20 year tech]

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Ask the guys from New Zealand.
NZ has the most relaxed social laws for GM foods.

If my information is correct New Zealand is used for all global corporation Guinea pig Food and Drug experiments on their populations. Australia follows a close second with its medical guinea pig products and procedures.

The medical feed back from global corporations food drug, procedural experiments are channel back out of other countries to the private global companies through bogus University fronts and research grants.

The Australian government openly allows the private medical history of individual people to leave Australia through the University feed back system in the name of research.

If my information is correct.
The global seed companies are now owning patents for all seeds and GM seeds in New Zealand.

We are living in challenging times. The word Corporate profit is not an anagram of God.

Google Monsanto lol

[SalesServiceGuy]

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Is Aspartame acceptable as a Zero calorie beverage?

Of course, it is.

Is GMO foods acceptable as a a food or protein source, of course it is.

Is GMO foods modified by science acceptable, to sometimes yield a better harvest, of course it is.

Do informed consumers have a choice to buy non GMO foods or not, of course, they do.

Does higher cost GMO foods, negatively impact consumer purchasing decisions, of course it decisions.

Life is unfair, and myself as an affluent white Canadian copier sales who guy can only sponsor an African child ,$40.00 every month, global charities (tax deduction) help to minimize my pain (real money spent) in sympathy of their plight.

[lazymangr]

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you know, not all gmos are bad. farmers modifing plants since thousands of years through selective farming. check out how corn looked like back in azteks era and also other plants. gmo is all about getting better yield from the same crop and be less sensitive in diseases and stuff. nothign more nothing less when you use a gmo plant you use less and less pesticides because the plant itself its immune to diseases.

[NeoMatrix]

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you know, not all gmos are bad. farmers modifing plants since thousands of years through selective farming. check out how corn looked like back in azteks era and also other plants. gmo is all about getting better yield from the same crop and be less sensitive in diseases and stuff. nothign more nothing less when you use a gmo plant you use less and less pesticides because the plant itself its immune to diseases.

Re. Selective farming.
I see no problem with the natural process of selection of quality or variation for purpose.
Nature has it's own selective process. Its call the law of the jungle or survival of the fittest.
Only the strongest or healthiest of the species survive. It is "natural selection",not a man made profit driven mineral injection,chemical modification or Gene splicing selection.

Such be the case, if natural selection is speed-up/modified then in a one-to-one balance of the system natural disease will speed-up/enhance to match. Can mans immune system speed up to match the biological-enhanced diseases caused by his modified food chain? Every man made plastic,chemical ,factory toxin,nuclear waste that is artificially produced ends up in the food chain. Man is a victim of his own creation.

Nature has a natural order of balance.
It is a critical order of balance that hinges on the edge of a cigarette paper.
If it does not balance it ceases to exist.
No if's no but's, the natural balanced order of the universe is unbreakable law.
To the contrary in mans artificial self proclaimed godly arrogance and ignorance he believes otherwise.

[Phil B.]

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Re. Selective farming.
I see no problem with the natural process of selection of quality or variation for purpose.
Nature has it's own selective process. Its call the law of the jungle or survival of the fittest.
Only the strongest or healthiest of the species survive. It is "natural selection",not a man made profit driven mineral injection,chemical modification or Gene splicing selection.

** Nature is the way to cross breed/pollinate modify Natures way.. I totally agree on your stance on this subject**

Such be the case, if natural selection is speed-up/modified then in a one-to-one balance of the system natural disease will speed-up/enhance to match. Can mans immune system speed up to match the biological-enhanced diseases caused by his modified food chain? Every man made plastic,chemical ,factory toxin,nuclear waste that is artificially produced ends up in the food chain. Man is a victim of his own creation.

** What -= IF =- the 'change in strain of corn' is FINE to feed cattle.. but we find after 20 years it wreaks havoc on Humans that ingest the meat or another domestically raise food animal? **

Nature has a natural order of balance.
It is a critical order of balance that hinges on the edge of a cigarette paper.
If it does not balance it ceases to exist.
No if's no but's, the natural balanced order of the universe is unbreakable law.
To the contrary in mans artificial self proclaimed godly arrogance and ignorance he believes otherwise.

** it's called the " Cycle of Life " ...the strong survive, and the weak do not.. sniff sniff.. Are you a sheep or a wolf? or are YOU a sheepdog? **

you nailed it today Sir!

[lazymangr]

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you know all food you eat "not the injected or the mineral enhanced" are not product of natural selection. is all man made over the period of hundreds or thousands of years. even the breeds is man made. i will always pick a plant that is gmo to be immune to certain diseases, pests etc than be injected with tons of pesticides or mineral enhancement to get the same result. and you must also know gmo is the answer to the world hunger. its called vertical farming or something like that. since the fields are the same and cant be increased to farm more, we farm in the same areas with bigger yield. either that or this world wont hold us any more.