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  • NeoMatrix
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    • Nov 2010
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    #16
    Re: ISSUES: Ethical , Moral , Legal ,Justified

    Originally posted by lazymangr
    you know all food you eat "not the injected or the mineral enhanced" are not product of natural selection. is all man made over the period of hundreds or thousands of years. even the breeds is man made. i will always pick a plant that is gmo to be immune to certain diseases, pests etc than be injected with tons of pesticides or mineral enhancement to get the same result. and you must also know gmo is the answer to the world hunger. its called vertical farming or something like that. since the fields are the same and cant be increased to farm more, we farm in the same areas with bigger yield. either that or this world wont hold us any more.
    Re. Organic verses GMO.
    I prefer to select natural grown organic fruits and vegetables, not GMO or made in china fruits and veges, but that is not always the case with available supplies in store. There are two category sections in every supermarket. The "health" food section and the "normal" food section. If the health food section is for people looking for good health, what category does that place the normal food section in the supermarket?

    GMO is not the answer to world hunger.
    The answer to world hunger is natural vegetable "hormones" and trace minerals that make fruits and vegetables grown faster and twice the size. Nature has every answer to all natural food production problems, including industrial scale natural pesticides and bug/bacteria free produce.

    Re. Wasted effort.
    Is there a world wide scientific push to introduce natural vegetable hormones into the agriculture industries?
    Are the mining industries pushing Gov't for more mineral research rights to mine mineral trace elements for food production? Mineral trace element in the soil are require for healthy food production. When we eat healthy fruits and vegetable, those same trace minerals are absorbed by the human body for essential health. Insufficient trace elements in the human body and that person can suffer from long term chronic health problems. Natural fruits and veges are important source of trace elements and enzymes for a healthy human immune system.

    Does money for cancer research get directed into the above healthy food production; those same healthy fruits and veges that prevent and/or cause cancer to recede ?
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    • copiertec
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      #17
      Re: ISSUES: Ethical , Moral , Legal ,Justified

      Originally posted by NeoMatrix
      Re. Organic verses GMO.
      I prefer to select natural grown organic fruits and vegetables, not GMO or made in china fruits and veges, but that is not always the case with available supplies in store. There are two category sections in every supermarket. The "health" food section and the "normal" food section. If the health food section is for people looking for good health, what category does that place the normal food section in the supermarket?

      GMO is not the answer to world hunger.
      The answer to world hunger is natural vegetable "hormones" and trace minerals that make fruits and vegetables grown faster and twice the size. Nature has every answer to all natural food production problems, including industrial scale natural pesticides and bug/bacteria free produce.

      Re. Wasted effort.
      Is there a world wide scientific push to introduce natural vegetable hormones into the agriculture industries?
      Are the mining industries pushing Gov't for more mineral research rights to mine mineral trace elements for food production? Mineral trace element in the soil are require for healthy food production. When we eat healthy fruits and vegetable, those same trace minerals are absorbed by the human body for essential health. Insufficient trace elements in the human body and that person can suffer from long term chronic health problems. Natural fruits and veges are important source of trace elements and enzymes for a healthy human immune system.

      Does money for cancer research get directed into the above healthy food production; those same healthy fruits and veges that prevent and/or cause cancer to recede ?
      All of the GMO crops, corn, peanuts, soy beans, cotton, etc, are glyphosate (a weed killer developed by Monsanto), resistant and are treated with it heavily. So not only are we ingesting glyphosate, which by the way has been banned in over 13 countries... maybe more, but we are exposed to it in our clothes, towels, blankets, etc.

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      • NeoMatrix
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        #18
        Re: ISSUES: Ethical , Moral , Legal ,Justified

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        • lazymangr
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          Re: ISSUES: Ethical , Moral , Legal ,Justified

          about that hudrogen stable fuel there is a greek guy who did it in his house ( he is an engineer) he turns unstable hydroxide to pure hydrogen to cook. there is a video about it in greek though, but its awsome. YouTube.

          about glyphosate (product name roundup here in greece) gluphosate is a very bad weed killer. i have only seen 1 kind of weed that doesnt get affected by it even by spray it with pure glyphosate, not watered down. when you make your plant gmo you wont need the use of it. or make it toxic i.ex. for certain bugs.

          the organic crops isnt the answer for world hunger. you get less yield, smaller fruits, they are too exposed to diseases and bugs. even natural hormones isnt supposed to be bad? its enhancement by man.

          well, all of the corps are gmo. ALL. even if its the smallest detail. because my hometown are all farmers i know some stuff from frist hand and not from the news or internet. if you see the sack of seeds for corn, cotton, potatoes etc etc you will see that they are modified so when you plant them, i.ex. corn, when the plant grow and produces the corn , if you plant that seed it wont produce any corn. it will be sterile. that happens so they can control the quality of the seed. isnt that a gmo? and that is on all the seeds at least in europe

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          • Copier Addict
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            • Jul 2013
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            #20
            Re: ISSUES: Ethical , Moral , Legal ,Justified

            Originally posted by NeoMatrix
            Re. Organic verses GMO.
            I prefer to select natural grown organic fruits and vegetables, not GMO or made in china fruits and veges, but that is not always the case with available supplies in store. There are two category sections in every supermarket. The "health" food section and the "normal" food section. If the health food section is for people looking for good health, what category does that place the normal food section in the supermarket?

            GMO is not the answer to world hunger.
            The answer to world hunger is natural vegetable "hormones" and trace minerals that make fruits and vegetables grown faster and twice the size. Nature has every answer to all natural food production problems, including industrial scale natural pesticides and bug/bacteria free produce.

            Re. Wasted effort.
            Is there a world wide scientific push to introduce natural vegetable hormones into the agriculture industries?
            Are the mining industries pushing Gov't for more mineral research rights to mine mineral trace elements for food production? Mineral trace element in the soil are require for healthy food production. When we eat healthy fruits and vegetable, those same trace minerals are absorbed by the human body for essential health. Insufficient trace elements in the human body and that person can suffer from long term chronic health problems. Natural fruits and veges are important source of trace elements and enzymes for a healthy human immune system.

            Does money for cancer research get directed into the above healthy food production; those same healthy fruits and veges that prevent and/or cause cancer to recede ?
            What he is saying is, all food you eat at this moment is genetically modified. The apples the farmer grows down the road, the wheat in the field, the potatoes in the ground. Over the years scientists have bred certain traits either in or out. So, no matter what you are eating at this moment, it has been geneitically modified at some point in it's history.

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            • NeoMatrix
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              2,500+ Posts
              • Nov 2010
              • 3513

              #21
              Re: ISSUES: Ethical , Moral , Legal ,Justified

              Originally posted by lazymangr
              about that hudrogen stable fuel there is a greek guy who did it in his house ( he is an engineer) he turns unstable hydroxide to pure hydrogen to cook. there is a video about it in greek though, but its awsome. YouTube.

              about glyphosate (product name roundup here in greece) gluphosate is a very bad weed killer. i have only seen 1 kind of weed that doesnt get affected by it even by spray it with pure glyphosate, not watered down. when you make your plant gmo you wont need the use of it. or make it toxic i.ex. for certain bugs.

              the organic crops isnt the answer for world hunger. you get less yield, smaller fruits, they are too exposed to diseases and bugs. even natural hormones isnt supposed to be bad? its enhancement by man.

              well, all of the corps are gmo. ALL. even if its the smallest detail. because my hometown are all farmers i know some stuff from frist hand and not from the news or internet. if you see the sack of seeds for corn, cotton, potatoes etc etc you will see that they are modified so when you plant them, i.ex. corn, when the plant grow and produces the corn , if you plant that seed it wont produce any corn. it will be sterile. that happens so they can control the quality of the seed. isnt that a gmo? and that is on all the seeds at least in europe
              Re. Hybrid modification.
              The process of preventing further seed from producing the next years crop is known in Australia as hybridization or hybrid.

              Yes nearly all seed used in farming comes from money making hybrid(bastardized) seed crops.

              If my information is correct the process to bastardized seed uses a ion stream of metal particles to inject a certain type of precious mineral into the seed just before bulk sale to the grower/farmer. Its interesting to know that precious metals can be used to bastardize the natural food supply instead of being used as a currency stabilizer to level out social inflation.
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