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  • allan
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    #31
    Re: Anti-vaccine ridiculousness

    Just some really random thing to add. Where the awaking started.

    I struggle with tooth decay with heavy mind numbing pain, that was good for ibuprofen and codeine-phosphate sales. Then ultimately renal failure treatment would take some more cash.
    Brushed my teeth twice a day as per the adverts with fluoride toothpaste from child hood.

    Stopped using toothpaste for more that 6 years now, have not had a single days worth of infection, pain or bad breath(do love raw garlic...).
    There is less that 0% need for fluoride in our bodies and yet...

    Why is it in our tap water and tooth paste?
    Why does independent test find human hormones and hormone altering drugs in our tap water?

    Drink clean water eat fresh cut green vegetables, and avoid any processed food.
    Last edited by allan; 05-06-2019, 04:12 PM.
    Whatever

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    • keithxxiii
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      #32
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      Myself being born in a 3rd world country used to have vaccine shots that we never knew what it's all about. I remember evading 1 vaccine shot during my grade school (I raised my sleeve up and went with the kids who are done). Now at 33, still feeling good, never been admitted to any hospital. Now I'm raising 2 kids in a different country, the department of health gave a vaccine book that needs to be followed. Kids get vaccinated on time and thank God, all is well.

      I think flat earthers and anti vax people are just riding the bandwagon for nothing.
      Aye! Cut the crap

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      • BLADE
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        #33
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        probably just as safe as an implant or joint replacement

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        • Copier Addict
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          #34
          Re: Anti-vaccine ridiculousness

          Originally posted by slimslob
          In 1990 CDC and drug manufacturers agreed to reduce the amount of thimerosal used to only what was absolutely necessary in multi dose vials but it was not eliminated. Please note, thimerosal was only used as a preservative in multi dose vials, not in single dose vials. Check that the sources you are reading are not referring to single dose vials.

          Thimerosal was taken out of childhood vaccines in the United States in 2001.

          Measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccines do not and never did contain thimerosal. Varicella (chickenpox), inactivated polio (IPV), and pneumococcal conjugate vaccines have also never contained thimerosal.

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          • copiertec
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            #35
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            Originally posted by copier addict
            Thimerosal was taken out of childhood vaccines in the United States in 2001.

            Measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccines do not and never did contain thimerosal. Varicella (chickenpox), inactivated polio (IPV), and pneumococcal conjugate vaccines have also never contained thimerosal.
            This is from the CDC's website directly, it is a list of ingredients. This is not mere conjecture... it's a fact. Parents | Making the Vaccine Decision | CDC

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            • Copier Addict
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              Originally posted by copiertec
              This is from the CDC's website directly, it is a list of ingredients. This is not mere conjecture... it's a fact. Parents | Making the Vaccine Decision | CDC
              Yup. And it clearly states that thimerosal is only in multi dose vials of the flu vaccine. So that must mean it isn't in childhood disease vaccines. Thanks.

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              • Copier Addict
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                #37
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                Originally posted by NeoMatrix

                Be wary of those who come to protect the children.


                Vaccination or population control?
                Are these child health vaccinations from the same caring NWO that disperses virual agents from the wing tips of commerical airline aircraft?

                Are these child health vaccinations from the same caring NWO that sprays chem-trails from high altitude military aircraft?

                I beleive Russia deals with the viral dispersent problem by shooting down these commercial aircraft unconditional .
                I'm inclined to believe Malaysia might do similar, the pilots kamakazi the aircraft into the middle of the indian ocean.

                Aircraft viral dispersent takes around two weeks to float down from the atmosphere.
                The viral dispersent delivery has a timimg delay according to the distance the aircraft requires to reach the desired population target area.
                The viral agent is known to be delivered from the upper atmosphere, because all the tree dwelling mammals eg. flying foxes,
                kolas,possums in our country developed clymidia,syphillus,lysa-virus,menigitis,ect, skin/face cancers and body lesians all around the same periodic interval.
                These animals live isolated lives high up in the tree tops away from any human contact at ground level.
                It doesn't take a great deal of thought to work out the problem appeared to be delivered from the sky.
                Why did the tree top animals suffer from disease first before animals around the ground level circum?

                Re. The Paramount Importance of vaccinations.
                Of cause the children need multiple vaccinations its part of the caring sharing NWO predefined poplation system.
                Of cause it will gradually becoming a legal requirment to vaccinate your children, such be the case of the predetemined NWO
                deliberately created scenario to protect "their" children from the biological parents.
                Of cause all the new childhood vaccinations will be "cost effectively" contained in a single one off capusle place under the skin.
                Of cause the ID-Capsule will contain a RF-ID electronic tag to make sure the parents obey the vaccination NWO laws.

                RE. The righteous,godly driven 3rd Person.
                You horrible bad parents, you should be put in jail for not vaccinating "OUR" children.

                Be wary of those who come to protect the children.

                [Sn->Al wizard cover instu...]
                All of this stuff has nothing to do with the topic at hand, and zero basis in reality, so don't post any more tinfoil hat info.
                Feel free to start another thread though.

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                • copiertec
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                  #38
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                  I now pose a question for argument sake... Knowing these vaccinations contain Aluminum, mercury, formaldehyde and Thimerosal. Would you allow your child to be injected with these known poisons? As a parent, it is your upmost responsibility to protect your child from any type of harm, ANY, yet millions of parents allow mega pharmaceutical companies to inject their children with known poisons (Thimerisol, mercury, formaldehyde and aluminum) because the government, which last I checked is supposed to work for us, or your doctor, who is supposed to protect children, says it okay to inject your children with these known poisons and require it of you. It does not matter how small the dose of poisons in the vaccines... are you as a parent going to allow your child to be injected with a poison and be able to sleep that night especially knowing you allowed a poison into your child's undeveloped immune system? You as parent are supposed to protect them from that!
                  If you were given a glass of liquid to drink knowing it contained themerisol, mercury, formaldehyde and aluminum but were told it will protect you from the bird flu (aka swine flu), would you drink it even though there is a room full of people next to you that are convulsing from drinking it, but the man in the white coat says, "that is just the small percentage of people who are having side effects, don't worry you will be fine... after all you don't want to get the bird flu and die, do you?" I personally would pass on the liquid and take my chances.
                  The only difference between drinking or injecting these poisons is the injected poison goes directly to the blood system aka the central nervous system.

                  Might I mention that I nether stated if I am for or against mandatory vaccinations, I am merely posting facts from the CDC.

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                  • Copier Addict
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                    #39
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                    Originally posted by copiertec
                    I now pose a question for argument sake... Knowing these vaccinations contain Aluminum, mercury, formaldehyde and Thimerosal. Would you allow your child to be injected with these known poisons? As a parent, it is your upmost responsibility to protect your child from any type of harm, ANY, yet millions of parents allow mega pharmaceutical companies to inject their children with known poisons (Thimerisol, mercury, formaldehyde and aluminum) because the government, which last I checked is supposed to work for us, or your doctor, who is supposed to protect children, says it okay to inject your children with these known poisons and require it of you. It does not matter how small the dose of poisons in the vaccines... are you as a parent going to allow your child to be injected with a poison and be able to sleep that night especially knowing you allowed a poison into your child's undeveloped immune system? You as parent are supposed to protect them from that!
                    If you were given a glass of liquid to drink knowing it contained themerisol, mercury, formaldehyde and aluminum but were told it will protect you from the bird flu (aka swine flu), would you drink it even though there is a room full of people next to you that are convulsing from drinking it, but the man in the white coat says, "that is just the small percentage of people who are having side effects, don't worry you will be fine... after all you don't want to get the bird flu and die, do you?" I personally would pass on the liquid and take my chances.
                    The only difference between drinking or injecting these poisons is the injected poison goes directly to the blood system aka the central nervous system.

                    Might I mention that I nether stated if I am for or against mandatory vaccinations, I am merely posting facts from the CDC.
                    Fact. The flu vaccine doesn't contain mercury AND thimerisal. The ethylmercury is in thimerisal.
                    Fact. Childhood disease vaccines do NOT contain thimerisal.
                    Fact. Vaccines protect people from potentially life threatening diseases.
                    Yes, I sleep just fine because I was able to protect my child from these diseases.
                    No, I don't get the flu vaccine simply because it doesn't give much actual protection. When there is a vaccine that gives real protection I will get it.

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                    • FrohnB
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                      #40
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                      Just my two cents on the "Autism" link. It was found to be a "Faked" study years ago, with certain "interests" involved to skew data and such.

                      And on a Statistical note, 1 in 110 kids will be born with autism regardless of family history/ vaccinations/ drug-use/ etc. and roughly 4,000,000 babies will be born each year. If 1% didn't get vaccinated each year (40,000 infants), they are exponentially more likely to get very sick or spread terrible illness within the first 4 years. and with vaccines being at least 85 - 90% effective WHY WOULD YOU NOT DO IT!!? Common sense for the greater good of humanity.
                      Omertà

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                      • copiertec
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                        #41
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                        Originally posted by copier addict
                        Fact. The flu vaccine doesn't contain mercury AND thimerisal. The ethylmercury is in thimerisal.
                        Fact. Childhood disease vaccines do NOT contain thimerisal.
                        Fact. Vaccines protect people from potentially life threatening diseases.
                        Yes, I sleep just fine because I was able to protect my child from these diseases.
                        No, I don't get the flu vaccine simply because it doesn't give much actual protection. When there is a vaccine that gives real protection I will get it.
                        Really? This is from the CDC's website. http://www.copytechnet.com/forums/redirect-to/?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdc.gov%2Fvaccines%2Fp arents%2Fvaccine-decision%2Findex.html%3FCDC_AA_refVal%3Dhttps%253A %252F%252Fwww.cdc.gov%252Fvaccines%252Fparents%252 Fvaccine-decision%252Fingredients.html


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                        • Copier Addict
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                          From that article.

                          *Today, the only childhood vaccines used routinely in the United States that contain thimerosal (mercury) are flu vaccines in multi-dose vials. These vials have very tiny amounts of thimerosal as a preservative. This is necessary because each time an individual dose is drawn from a multi-dose vial with a new needle and syringe, there is the potential to contaminate the vial with harmful microbes

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                          • xring1958
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                            #43
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                            Originally posted by slimslob
                            The potential problem is not the vaccines themselves. It is the thimerosal that is used as a preservative. From the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention "Thimerosal is a mercury-based preservative that has been used for decades in the United States in multi-dose vials (vials containing more than one dose) of medicines and vaccines." The potential for problems increases, especially for young children, when multiple vaccinations are administered at the same time or over a short period of time. With more and more vaccinations being required to enter school, such multiple vaccinations are common when parents wait until the last minute to get their child vaccinated.
                            Since 2001, all vaccines manufactured for the U.S. market and routinely recommended for children ≤ 6 years of age have contained no thimerosal or only trace amounts (≤ 1 microgram of mercury per dose remaining from the manufacturing process), with the exception of inactivated influenza vaccine. In addition, all of the routinely recommended vaccines that had been previously manufactured with thimerosal as a preservative (some formulations of DTaP, Haemophilus influenzae b conjugate (Hib), and hepatitis B vaccines) had reached the end of their shelf life by January 2003.

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                            • copiertec
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                              #44
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                              Originally posted by copier addict
                              From that article.

                              *Today, the only childhood vaccines used routinely in the United States that contain thimerosal (mercury) are flu vaccines in multi-dose vials. These vials have very tiny amounts of thimerosal as a preservative. This is necessary because each time an individual dose is drawn from a multi-dose vial with a new needle and syringe, there is the potential to contaminate the vial with harmful microbes
                              Thimerosal (only in multi-dose vials of flu vaccine)* To prevent contamination
                              Aluminum salts To help stimulate the body’s response to the antigens
                              Sugars, gelatin To keep the vaccine potent during transportation and storage
                              Egg protein To grow enough of the virus or bacteria to make the vaccine
                              Formaldehyde To kill viruses or inactivate toxins during the manufacturing process
                              Neomycin To prevent contamination by bacteria during the vaccine manufacturing process
                              Correct... thus debunking your statement that childhood vaccines DO Not contain Thimerosal.

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                              • slimslob
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                                #45
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                                Originally posted by copier addict
                                Yup. And it clearly states that thimerosal is only in multi dose vials of the flu vaccine. So that must mean it isn't in childhood disease vaccines. Thanks.
                                Are you trying to say that children do not get the flu?

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