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  • BillyCarpenter
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    #8596
    Re: Let the truth be known

    Originally posted by ZOOTECH
    If you are found not guilty does not mean you are innocent.

    Once again, a person is always presumed innocent until proven guilty. It's not a difficult concept to understand. In fact, our entire legal system is built on this concept.


    If we play this out to it's logical conclusion where Trump is concerned, he was always presumed innocent. He was never found guilty. Hell, he was never even charged. Thus he was always innocent and is still innocent.
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    • BillyCarpenter
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      Re: Let the truth be known

      Originally posted by copier addict
      But, but you have been adamant that there were no charges, and the Mueller commission wasn't to find guilt or innocence. Jeez Billy, pick a side. Your constant flip flopping is making me dizzy
      How's this? The Russian collusion was neither proven nor disproven.
      Your obsession for argument is exhausting.

      Trump was presumed innocent from the beginning. He's still considered innocent to this day.


      Your hate for Trump has blinded your ass and you continue to wear a tinfoil hat. You're a f'n conspiracy theorist. What's ironic is that you accuse others of this. Classic.
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      • Copier Addict
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        #8598
        Re: Let the truth be known

        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
        Trump was presumed innocent from the beginning. He's still considered innocent to this day.


        Your hate for Trump has blinded your ass and you continue to wear a tinfoil hat. You're a f'n conspiracy theorist. What's ironic is that you accuse others of this. Classic.

        There you go making shit up again. Lol
        Tell me exactly what "conspiracy theory" I am being accused of believing. I'm very interested in your answer.

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        • BillyCarpenter
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          Originally posted by copier addict
          There you go making shit up again. Lol
          Tell me exactly what "conspiracy theory" I am being accused of believing. I'm very interested in your answer.

          This is like debating a child.

          You can't admit that Trump was always presumed innocent of collusion and remains innocent of those charges. Instead, you plant false seeds and hope that an idiot will water it and make it grow.


          Is Trump considered innocent of colluding with Russia?

          We all know this sucker will not give a straight answer. He's as dishonest as the day is long.
          Last edited by BillyCarpenter; 10-08-2021, 06:14 AM.
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          • Copier Addict
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            Re: Let the truth be known

            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
            This is like debating a child.

            You can't admit that Trump was always presumed innocent of collusion and remains innocent of those charges. Instead, you plant false seeds and hope that an idiot will water your false seed and make it grow.


            Is Trump considered innocent of colluding with Russia?

            We all know this sucker will not give a straight answer. He's as dishonest as the day is long.
            Innocent, guilty, I don't care. I was never on the collusion band wagon. You really are exhausting. Trying to discuss anything with you is like trying to nail Jello to a tree. I shoot you down and then you turn the topic to something else and pretend that's what we had been discussing all along. If you want donny boy to be "considered innocent" who am I to stop you.

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            • BillyCarpenter
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              Originally posted by copier addict
              Innocent, guilty, I don't care. I was never on the collusion band wagon. You really are exhausting. Trying to discuss anything with you is like trying to nail Jello to a tree. I shoot you down and then you turn the topic to something else and pretend that's what we had been discussing all along. If you want donny boy to be "considered innocent" who am I to stop you.

              Who here believes that copier addict doesn't care if Trump is innocent or guilty of colluding with Russia?


              This boy can't tell the truth to save his life.
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              • slimslob
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                Re: Let the truth be known

                Originally posted by ZOOTECH
                If you are found not guilty does not mean you are innocent.
                Innocent is not a term that is normally not one of the options available to juries in a criminal trial. The 2 major options are Guilty as charged or Not Guilty as charged. So by default if a person ids found Not Guilty as charged, they have not been proven guilty and are therefore innocent. When a jury returns a verdict of Not Guilty, that is the end of it. The prosecution to appeal. The defense does. Now in the event of a mistrial, then the prosecution has the option of refiling or not.

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                • slimslob
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                  Re: Let the truth be known

                  Originally posted by copier addict
                  But, but you have been adamant that there were no charges, and the Mueller commission wasn't to find guilt or innocence. Jeez Billy, pick a side. Your constant flip flopping is making me dizzy
                  How's this? The Russian collusion was neither proven nor disproven.
                  Your obsession for argument is exhausting.
                  The Mueller commission purpose was to find evidence. They could find none.

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                  • Copier Addict
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                    Re: Let the truth be known

                    Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                    Who here believes that copier addict doesn't care if Trump is innocent or guilty of colluding with Russia?


                    This boy can't tell the truth to save his life.
                    Hahaha. You are so predictable. Ya get slapped down, then come the put downs.
                    Believe me, don't believe me. I don't care about that either.

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                    • bsm2
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                      Re: Let the truth be known

                      Enjoying the Meltdown

                      Still defending a PROVEN Liar Cheating FRAUD LOSER

                      This boy can't tell the truth to save his life
                      Last edited by bsm2; 10-08-2021, 12:14 PM.

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                      • bsm2
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                        Re: Let the truth be known


                        Senate Judiciary Committee's interim report on Donald Trump's corruption of the Department of Justice to try to overturn his 2020 election loss and where the investigation is likely to go in its next phase.

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                        • mojorolla
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                          #8607
                          Re: Let the truth be known

                          Originally posted by slimslob
                          Innocent is not a term that is normally not one of the options available to juries in a criminal trial. The 2 major options are Guilty as charged or Not Guilty as charged. So by default if a person ids found Not Guilty as charged, they have not been proven guilty and are therefore innocent. When a jury returns a verdict of Not Guilty, that is the end of it. The prosecution to appeal. The defense does. Now in the event of a mistrial, then the prosecution has the option of refiling or not.
                          "I agree 100% slim. Now if you will excuse me, I have to go look for Nicole's killer on the back 9 of a golf course"
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                          • slimslob
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                            Re: Let the truth be known

                            Originally posted by mojorolla
                            "I agree 100% slim. Now if you will excuse me, I have to go look for Nicole's killer on the back 9 of a golf course"
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                            It may not have been OJ but IMHO it was someone living in the OJ mansion.

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                            • bsm2
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                              Re: Let the truth be known



                              Terrible news for The Orange One

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                              • BillyCarpenter
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                                Re: Let the truth be known

                                Where did the term "tax and spend liberals " come from?

                                Anyone?
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