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  • slimslob
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    #5041
    Re: Let the truth be known

    Originally posted by Phil B.
    you actually visit that piece of shit satire site? damn you just lost a notch in my credibility scale.
    I share posts from them all the time.

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    • slimslob
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      #5042
      Re: Let the truth be known

      Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
      More Americans voted for Clinton than any other losing presidential candidate in US history.
      More people also voted against her than any other candidate in history.

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      • slimslob
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        Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
        For decades, Republicans at the State and Federal levels have been shaping electoral laws to give themselves every opportunity to take an unfair advantage at holding onto the levers of power.

        Many years ago, people with Democratic leaning beliefs are more populous than Republicans in the USA. If the Republicans ever were to face a straight up fair election, they will usually lose. Trump will certainly lose the popular vote by a wide margin in November.

        Therefore, like 2016, he needs to rely on the Electoral College to find a path to re-election.

        While many have heard of gerrymandering electoral districts, not many people are aware of the efforts that Republican lawmakers are making to preselect Electoral college representatives who are Trump sympathizers. While the norm is for Electoral college representatives to cast their votes in line with how the general population votes, they are not legally bound to do so.

        Trump is desperate to win re-election because he knows that as soon as he leaves office he will be attacked by many criminal and civil lawsuits for the crimes that has committed while in office.

        It now seems probable that the final results of the Nov 3 General election will not be decided that night and maybe not until weeks later with all mail in ballots not being counted right away.

        This is why Trump has set the stage to declare a contested election. Russia, a clear Trump supporter, is actively working to sew doubt in the election results via social media.

        If Electoral College representatives do not cast their vote in sympathy with the popular vote, there will certainly be immediate legal challenges that will likely end up at the Supreme Court.

        The rush for Trump to nominate Justice Barrett is very much to imbalance 6-3 the Supreme Court with Judges who are sympathetic to keeping Republicans in power and voting in Trump's favor.
        Again proving that you as a Canadian no absolutely nothing about US political structure. The Electoral College, although not referred to as such - the term Elector was used, was create along with the original Constitution.
        "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number
        of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the
        State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person
        holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an
        Elector."

        It has been modified 2 times by Amendments, the 12th and 22nd. Originally there were no party tickets. 2 or more individuals may be on the ballot for President.

        "(The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two persons, of
        whom one at least shall not lie an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they
        shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which
        List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the
        United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall,
        in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and
        the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be
        the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed;
        and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of
        Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them
        for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the
        said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the
        Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; a
        quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two-thirds of the
        States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case,
        after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the
        Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have
        equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice-President.) (This clause
        in parentheses was superseded by the 12th Amendment.)"

        As party politics became present, having a President and Vice President from different parties became a problem.

        Amendment 12 - Choosing the President, Vice-President. Ratified 6/15/1804.
        The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and
        Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with
        themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in
        distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists
        of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President and of
        the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed
        to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;
        The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of
        Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;
        The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if
        such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person
        have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding
        three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose
        immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be
        taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this
        purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a
        majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of
        Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve
        upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall
        act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the
        President.
        The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-
        President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if
        no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall
        choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the
        whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a
        choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible
        to that of Vice-President of the United States.

        The 22nd Amendment limited the President to 2 terms in office.

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        • slimslob
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          #5044
          Re: Let the truth be known

          Originally posted by bsm2
          We now know what Trump was trying to hide by holding back his tax returns



          According to CBS news the numbers reported by the New York even if they are true do not reflect all taxes paid by Donald Trump. Not included are FICA and Medicare taxes. It also did not includes the minimum alternative tax which most individuals with large investment incomes and losses pay. In fact it most likely included the amount that had to be submitted with the tax return and not any Quarterly Estimate taxes paid during the year.

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          • bsm2
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            #5045
            Re: Let the truth be known

            Tax bombshell reveals Trump's image is a sham

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            • bsm2
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              #5046
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                • BillyCarpenter
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                  #5048
                  Re: Let the truth be known

                  Originally posted by slimslob
                  I am sorry but Babylon Bee does not do "jokes." They do political satire. They also do Christian News.

                  I have no idea what they do. I never read the site. It just happen to pop up on my twitter feed and I thought it was funny.
                  Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                  • bsm2
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                    #5049
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                    Why a private section of the border wall is allegedly failing

                    Why a private section of the border wall is allegedly failing - 60 Minutes - CBS News

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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      #5050
                      Re: Let the truth be known

                      Fact Check: True



                      White House Press Secretary
                      @KayleighMcEnany
                      : Under Obamacare premiums went up, drug prices went up

                      Under President
                      @realDonaldTrump, drug prices went down for the first time in 50 years
                      Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                      • BillyCarpenter
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                        #5051
                        Re: Let the truth be known

                        Originally posted by jmaister
                        Need actual citation and reference for that.

                        Call me a numbers guy, I need actual stats report otherwise anything is words of mouth.

                        Fair enough. If you want the truth with data to back it up here you go.



                        Prescription Drug Prices Are Falling at Historic Levels Thanks to Trump Administration Policies

                        While the media continues to claim prescription drug prices are rising, a recent Council of Economic Advisers (CEA) paper shows the opposite: Under President Trump, prescription drug prices are decreasing at rates not seen since the 1960s.



                        Full report: https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/prescription-drug-prices-falling-historic-levels-thanks-trump-administration-policies/
                        Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          #5052
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                          Full Report: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conten...Drug-Index.pdf
                          Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                          • BillyCarpenter
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                            #5053
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                            Fox News.

                            Fox
                            .


                            Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                            • bsm2
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                              #5054
                              Re: Let the truth be known

                              Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                              Fact Check: True



                              White House Press Secretary
                              @KayleighMcEnany
                              : Under Obamacare premiums went up, drug prices went up

                              Under President
                              @realDonaldTrump, drug prices went down for the first time in 50 years
                              Of coarse it's true the White House never LIEs
                              Drug go up down all the time NOTHING Trump has done to lower costs.
                              How's the Health-care cost under Trump Yep Up Up Up
                              Your Welcome

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                              • bsm2
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                                #5055
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                                Redfield voices alarm over influence of Trump's new coronavirus task force adviser
                                CDC Director Robert Redfield took aim at Covid-19 task force member Scott Atlas, telling a colleague in an overheard call that "everything he says is false."

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