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  • slimslob
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    #5356
    Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

    Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
    NFL tells White House it's ready to make every stadium a vaccination site


    Every NFL team will make its stadium available as a mass vaccination site, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell wrote in a letter to President Joe Biden dated Thursday.

    The offer comes as the Biden administration has promised the opening of mass vaccination sites as part of its push to ramp up the pace of Covid inoculations.

    "This is currently being done at seven NFL stadiums today," Goodell wrote. "We can expand our efforts to stadiums across the nation more effectively because many of our clubs have offered their facilities previously as COVID testing centers as well as election sites over the past several months."

    According to an NFL spokesman, the seven clubs that have already activated vaccination sites "at or near their stadium" are Arizona (State Farm Stadium), Atlanta (Mercedes-Benz Stadium), Baltimore (M&T Bank Stadium), Carolina (Bank of America Stadium), Houston (NRG Park), Miami (Hard Rock Stadium) and New England (Gillette Stadium).

    The NFL has also been in communication with the White House regarding coronavirus response efforts on another front -- Sunday's Super Bowl. CNN reported earlier Thursday that the President and first lady Jill Biden have taped a video message thanking health care workers that will be shown before the game, according to a source familiar with the plans.

    An administration official told CNN that the White House also hoped to use Sunday's event to combat vaccine hesitancy and speak to the African American, Latino and White, rural "non-mask-wearing" communities in particular. The Super Bowl presents "an interesting opportunity to reach all three of those audiences," the official said.

    The White House has been in touch with the NFL and other brands involved in the Super Bowl on ways to integrate pro-mask and pro-vaccine messaging in the highly watched event, one White House official said. The official declined to elaborate further on the extent of the White House's collaboration with the league or specific companies.

    The NFL, for its part, has consulted with public health officials in preparation for the weekend and announced a set of protocols including mandatory mask-wearing and social distancing to prevent the spread of Covid at this weekend's game.

    Goodell referenced in the letter to Biden that the league has also invited 7,500 vaccinated health care workers to the game "who will attend as our guests in gratitude for their heroic service and to highlight the importance of vaccinations as our country recovers from the pandemic."

    According to the NFL, some 14,500 people will be in attendance through general admission, and another 2,700 fans will be in stadium suites.

    And if they have any trouble organizing the, their nearest Chic-Fil-A should be able to help. A Chick-fil-A manager saved a drive-thru Covid-19 vaccination clinic after it backed up - CNN

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    • SalesServiceGuy
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      #5357
      Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
      Considering that Canada ranks near the very bottom, Canada should do something like this. Has there been any talk of doing something similar?
      Internet troll


      In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts flame wars or intentionally upsets people on the Internet.

      Typically they do this by posting inflammatory and digressive,extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog), with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses and normalizing tangential discussion.

      This is typically for the troll's amusement, or to achieve a specific result such as disrupting a rival's online activities or manipulating a political process.

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      • slimslob
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        #5358
        Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
        Considering that Canada ranks near the very bottom, Canada should do something like this. Has there been any talk of doing something similar?
        Considering that the United Arab Emirates and Israel are the 2 leaders in getting vaccines out, maybe the Canadian government should be talking to them for advice. Daily COVID-19 vaccine doses administered per 100 people - Our World in Data

        Israel, a global leader in COVID vaccinations, finds limits - ABC News

        Why have the COVID-19 vaccinations in Israel made the headlines?

        COVID-19: UAE administers more than 4 million vaccine doses | Health – Gulf News

        timeoutdubai.com

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        • Phil B.
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          #5359
          Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

          Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
          Internet troll


          In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts flame wars or intentionally upsets people on the Internet.

          Typically they do this by posting inflammatory and digressive,extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog), with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses and normalizing tangential discussion.

          This is typically for the troll's amusement, or to achieve a specific result such as disrupting a rival's online activities or manipulating a political process.
          Ah... but no witty come back?
          Just some left wing definitions.

          Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

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          • slimslob
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            #5360
            Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

            Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
            Internet troll


            In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts flame wars or intentionally upsets people on the Internet.

            Typically they do this by posting inflammatory and digressive,extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog), with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses and normalizing tangential discussion.

            This is typically for the troll's amusement, or to achieve a specific result such as disrupting a rival's online activities or manipulating a political process.
            Very good description of you, the other Canadian liberal and the Floridian IT.

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            • BillyCarpenter
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              #5361
              Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

              Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
              Internet troll


              In Internet slang, a troll is a person who starts flame wars or intentionally upsets people on the Internet.

              Typically they do this by posting inflammatory and digressive,extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog), with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses and normalizing tangential discussion.

              This is typically for the troll's amusement, or to achieve a specific result such as disrupting a rival's online activities or manipulating a political process.

              I'm hurt that you'd think I'm trolling.

              You got me all excited by telling me how great Canada would be with the vaccine rollout. I waited with eager anticipation for Canada to show the world how it's done. As you said, Trudeau had purchased enough vaccine for the entire country. I find myself a bit confused that the results don't reconcile with your statements.

              I'm also more than a little perplexed that the good people of Canada have given Trudeau a free pass on the rollout.


              Signed,

              Confused USA Citizen.
              Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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              • FrohnB
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                #5362
                Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                Considering that Canada ranks near the very bottom, Canada should do something like this. Has there been any talk of doing something similar?
                Omertà

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                • SalesServiceGuy
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                  #5363
                  Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                  Canada 'will stop at nothing' to bring in vaccines: procurement minister

                  Anita Anand and PM Justin Trudeau offer reassurances after weeks of delayed shipments from Moderna, Pfizer

                  The federal procurement minister says she's confident vaccine manufacturers will meet their obligations to Canada.

                  In an interview with As It Happens host Carol Off on Friday, Anita Anand echoed Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's earlier reassurances that Moderna and Pfizer will hold up their end of the bargain to send six million vaccine doses to Canada by the end of March, and 70 million by the end of September.

                  This is despite vaccine delivery delays over the last month due to manufacturing issues in Europe.


                  Do you understand why Canadians might worry that when they watch the flow of vaccines from both Pfizer and Moderna reduced to a trickle, that they are in a bit of a panic about this?

                  I do understand and I am also disappointed about the temporary reduction that we experienced last week. But I want to assure Canadians that the shipments of vaccine did return over the past week. And so we are continuing to ramp up with our vaccine delivery and we will see a steep incline come the middle of February through to the end of March and then into the spring.

                  By the end of [the first quarter of the fiscal period on March 31], we will see six million vaccines in this country. By the end of [the second quarter on June 30], we will see 26 million in aggregate.

                  And by the end of [the third quarter on Sept. 30], over 70 million vaccines in aggregate, so that every Canadian who wishes to be vaccinated will have access to a vaccine.

                  That's our commitment to Canadians, and that's what we're working on every single day.


                  Your government promised 366,000 Pfizer doses per week in February. I'm not saying that you're at fault for this, but do you think that your government set up expectations that you simply could not deliver on?

                  One of the things that I want to make sure everyone realizes is that our vaccine contracts specify quarterly delivery timelines, and they have from the very beginning of the contract. We always knew that we would be entitled to six million doses per quarter.

                  The delivery schedules that we provided are provided in order to allow provinces and territories to plan. They are for planning purposes only. And so the commitment for six million vaccines by the end of the quarter remains.


                  I know you're saying [these are] quarterly contracts … but you gave specific numbers that were going to arrive, and those numbers have not happened…. Do you think that you should not have, in retrospect, given those kinds of commitments, set up those kinds of expectations, that you were unable to deliver on?

                  We are in a global environment that is extremely competitive, where production is being ramped up around the world. And the reason why we provided those numbers is because that is what the vaccine manufacturers told us. And we want to be transparent with Canadians, and certainly with the provinces and territories who are seeking to plan.

                  We were surprised and we were disappointed when the vaccine manufacturers revised the estimate that they provided to us on a week-to-week basis. By the same token, we sought assurances that they would not renege on their quarterly deliveries, and that's exactly what we were able to receive from them.


                  You were surprised and disappointed because they told you those numbers, and you told us those numbers. And now you're telling us numbers that they have told you again. And so why should you trust them, and why should we trust you?

                  Whether it is good or bad news, we come to Canadians with the information that we have. That's very important to me as a minister, and that's important to our government.
                  We have 1.4 million vaccines which have arrived in this country,


                  You've told us how disappointing it was that you couldn't convince Big Pharma to actually make these vaccines in Canada. And so what did they want you to deliver that you couldn't? Why couldn't they produce these vaccines here?

                  The important point that we heard at the bargaining table was from the vaccine manufacturers. [Setting] up new manufacturing of the vaccine requires resources from the producer. Given the scarcity of these resources, producers emphasized that locations had existing capacity. And we needed to make sure that they would be able to manufacture quickly at a global scale. That simply wasn't present in Canada at the time we were concluding our bilateral agreements.

                  And so we pursued a two-track approach. The first track was to secure seven bilateral agreements, which led to us having the largest number of doses per capita of any country in the world [from] over seven vaccine candidates.

                  And the second track was to build up domestic capacity. So we invested in the [National Research Council Canada] by $126 million. VIDO-InterVac in [Saskatchewan], $35 million. Medicago, $173 million. Providence [Therapeutics], $5 million. Precision Nano[Systems], $25 million. And then the Novavax contract this week for domestic production.


                  We have a pandemic, as you know, that is killing hundreds of thousands of people around the world. And yet we have to depend on Big Pharma and being part of highly competitive contracts, many of them secret, to try and get access to something that is going to save the lives of people in our country and others. Is that a really big problem for all of us, that that is what it comes down to?

                  I realize that there is the desire to see these contracts. I just want to emphasize, as a former law professor, that contracts are bilateral agreements made between two parties and therefore, the government of Canada cannot simply take a unilateral decision to release our contracts without putting in jeopardy our entire vaccine supply.

                  How worried are you that these drug companies could hang us out to dry?

                  At the current time, our negotiations with these drug companies have been very solid. We are working to make sure we have a stable relationship with them so that they work hard to get the shipments into Canada each and every week. And that's exactly what we've been able to do over the last week with getting shipments out of Europe on Friday, on Wednesday and again today.

                  I would like to reassure Canadians that we are on it each and every day. We are on top of this file. It is our government's top priority. And we will stop at nothing to make sure that vaccines come into this country.


                  We are simply trying to deal with a slowdown in the production facilities in Europe of these vaccine manufacturers. And once we deal with these temporary reductions, we will then be back on track to ensure we meet our quarterly delivery timelines.

                  We did expect some turbulence, but we are overcoming it in order to remain on track. For example, we did have our vaccine shipments leave Europe despite the fact that Europe did put in place a control or transparency mechanism that affected most countries.

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                  • Copier Addict
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                    #5364
                    Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                    Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                    Canada 'will stop at nothing' to bring in vaccines: procurement minister

                    Anita Anand and PM Justin Trudeau offer reassurances after weeks of delayed shipments from Moderna, Pfizer

                    The federal procurement minister says she's confident vaccine manufacturers will meet their obligations to Canada.

                    In an interview with As It Happens host Carol Off on Friday, Anita Anand echoed Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's earlier reassurances that Moderna and Pfizer will hold up their end of the bargain to send six million vaccine doses to Canada by the end of March, and 70 million by the end of September.

                    This is despite vaccine delivery delays over the last month due to manufacturing issues in Europe.


                    Do you understand why Canadians might worry that when they watch the flow of vaccines from both Pfizer and Moderna reduced to a trickle, that they are in a bit of a panic about this?

                    I do understand and I am also disappointed about the temporary reduction that we experienced last week. But I want to assure Canadians that the shipments of vaccine did return over the past week. And so we are continuing to ramp up with our vaccine delivery and we will see a steep incline come the middle of February through to the end of March and then into the spring.

                    By the end of [the first quarter of the fiscal period on March 31], we will see six million vaccines in this country. By the end of [the second quarter on June 30], we will see 26 million in aggregate.

                    And by the end of [the third quarter on Sept. 30], over 70 million vaccines in aggregate, so that every Canadian who wishes to be vaccinated will have access to a vaccine.

                    That's our commitment to Canadians, and that's what we're working on every single day.


                    Your government promised 366,000 Pfizer doses per week in February. I'm not saying that you're at fault for this, but do you think that your government set up expectations that you simply could not deliver on?

                    One of the things that I want to make sure everyone realizes is that our vaccine contracts specify quarterly delivery timelines, and they have from the very beginning of the contract. We always knew that we would be entitled to six million doses per quarter.

                    The delivery schedules that we provided are provided in order to allow provinces and territories to plan. They are for planning purposes only. And so the commitment for six million vaccines by the end of the quarter remains.




                    We are in a global environment that is extremely competitive, where production is being ramped up around the world. And the reason why we provided those numbers is because that is what the vaccine manufacturers told us. And we want to be transparent with Canadians, and certainly with the provinces and territories who are seeking to plan.

                    We were surprised and we were disappointed when the vaccine manufacturers revised the estimate that they provided to us on a week-to-week basis. By the same token, we sought assurances that they would not renege on their quarterly deliveries, and that's exactly what we were able to receive from them.


                    You were surprised and disappointed because they told you those numbers, and you told us those numbers. And now you're telling us numbers that they have told you again. And so why should you trust them, and why should we trust you?

                    Whether it is good or bad news, we come to Canadians with the information that we have. That's very important to me as a minister, and that's important to our government.
                    We have 1.4 million vaccines which have arrived in this country,


                    You've told us how disappointing it was that you couldn't convince Big Pharma to actually make these vaccines in Canada. And so what did they want you to deliver that you couldn't? Why couldn't they produce these vaccines here?

                    The important point that we heard at the bargaining table was from the vaccine manufacturers. [Setting] up new manufacturing of the vaccine requires resources from the producer. Given the scarcity of these resources, producers emphasized that locations had existing capacity. And we needed to make sure that they would be able to manufacture quickly at a global scale. That simply wasn't present in Canada at the time we were concluding our bilateral agreements.

                    And so we pursued a two-track approach. The first track was to secure seven bilateral agreements, which led to us having the largest number of doses per capita of any country in the world [from] over seven vaccine candidates.

                    And the second track was to build up domestic capacity. So we invested in the [National Research Council Canada] by $126 million. VIDO-InterVac in [Saskatchewan], $35 million. Medicago, $173 million. Providence [Therapeutics], $5 million. Precision Nano[Systems], $25 million. And then the Novavax contract this week for domestic production.


                    We have a pandemic, as you know, that is killing hundreds of thousands of people around the world. And yet we have to depend on Big Pharma and being part of highly competitive contracts, many of them secret, to try and get access to something that is going to save the lives of people in our country and others. Is that a really big problem for all of us, that that is what it comes down to?

                    I realize that there is the desire to see these contracts. I just want to emphasize, as a former law professor, that contracts are bilateral agreements made between two parties and therefore, the government of Canada cannot simply take a unilateral decision to release our contracts without putting in jeopardy our entire vaccine supply.

                    How worried are you that these drug companies could hang us out to dry?

                    At the current time, our negotiations with these drug companies have been very solid. We are working to make sure we have a stable relationship with them so that they work hard to get the shipments into Canada each and every week. And that's exactly what we've been able to do over the last week with getting shipments out of Europe on Friday, on Wednesday and again today.

                    I would like to reassure Canadians that we are on it each and every day. We are on top of this file. It is our government's top priority. And we will stop at nothing to make sure that vaccines come into this country.


                    We are simply trying to deal with a slowdown in the production facilities in Europe of these vaccine manufacturers. And once we deal with these temporary reductions, we will then be back on track to ensure we meet our quarterly delivery timelines.

                    We did expect some turbulence, but we are overcoming it in order to remain on track. For example, we did have our vaccine shipments leave Europe despite the fact that Europe did put in place a control or transparency mechanism that affected most countries.
                    I do think trudeau should have put some money towards the made in Canada vaccines. Instead he chose to deal with foreign companies.

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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      #5365
                      Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                      Originally posted by copier addict
                      I do think trudeau should have put some money towards the made in Canada vaccines. Instead he chose to deal with foreign companies.

                      Now we're getting somewhere. I asked you and SSG to give Trudeau a grade on the rollout. Was it you or SSG that gave him a B+? Just for clarity, what grade do you give Trudeau considering Canada ranks very poorly compared to almost every other country?
                      Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                        #5366
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                        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                        Now we're getting somewhere. I asked you and SSG to give Trudeau a grade on the rollout. Was it you or SSG that gave him a B+? Just for clarity, what grade do you give Trudeau considering Canada ranks very poorly compared to almost every other country?

                        If I actually thought you were capable of having an adult conversation I would respond to this. Unfortunately, you don't seem able to do it. Sorry

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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          #5367
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                          Originally posted by copier addict
                          If I actually thought you were capable of having an adult conversation I would respond to this. Unfortunately, you don't seem able to do it. Sorry


                          Fair enough. Maybe slim or Phil will ask you to grade Trudeau on the rollout. Will you answer then?
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                          • SalesServiceGuy
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                            ... the ex President never produced a national COVID-19 Pandemic response program. By all accounts including from the CDC, the former administration made statements but they rarely turned into sustained actions. Governing is hard, just saying words is meaningless.

                            Under President Biden, on Day 1, a clear concise plan was presented to the nation that encouraged corporate America to be all in.

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                              Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                              ... the ex President never produced a national COVID-19 Pandemic response program. By all accounts including from the CDC, the former administration made statements but they rarely turned into sustained actions. Governing is hard, just saying words is meaningless.

                              Under President Biden, on Day 1, a clear concise plan was presented to the nation that encouraged corporate America to be all in.

                              Curious statement considering you've already bought into every promise made by Joe Biden.
                              Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                              • slimslob
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                                #5370
                                Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                                Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                                ... the ex President never produced a national COVID-19 Pandemic response program. By all accounts including from the CDC, the former administration made statements but they rarely turned into sustained actions. Governing is hard, just saying words is meaningless.

                                Under President Biden, on Day 1, a clear concise plan was presented to the nation that encouraged corporate America to be all in.
                                You think that only because the main stream news media in the USA never would give President Trump credit for anything positive he did. The truth is that President Trump was one of the worldwide government leaders when it came to policy on combating SARS-CoV-2.

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