Latest on the Corona Virus

[Copier Addict]

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... the China blame game is a moot point. It is a right wing USA political talking point to deflect blame from the ex President's failure to mitigate this pandemic. It is not going to help a single infected person and it is unlikely to return a single dime in compensation.

... for those who want to live in the past and dwell on "would-a should-a" conspiracy theories, the world has no choice but to leave you behind. Only a small fraction of the global population is vaccinated against COVID-19, new more deadly variants will continue to appear and this pandemic will be around for many years into the future.

The new normal includes both masking and booster shots for many years into the future.

Of course I was being facetious.

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[Tricky]

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President Biden will decide what to do with the report.

Not all responses are made public.

Don't you think a disease that has claimed so many in the US is not worthy of public scrutiny, in the unlikely event this report does show some new results?

News articles like the one you posted create the illusion something revolutionary might happen, but it never does, China does as it pleases, and the fact that some think China has been irresponsible isn't just an American right wing theory there's the rest of the world to think about.

[SalesServiceGuy]

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Don't you think a disease that has claimed so many in the US is not worthy of public scrutiny, in the unlikely event this report does show some new results?

News articles like the one you posted create the illusion something revolutionary might happen, but it never does, China does as it pleases, and the fact that some think China has been irresponsible isn't just an American right wing theory there's the rest of the world to think about.

President Biden will decide what to do with the report.

Not all responses are made public.

[Tricky]

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President Biden will decide what to do with the report.

Not all responses are made public.

No opinion on China then, thought as much.

[Hansen88]

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While cases are up in florida, they still only rank 26th in deaths per million.

[tonerhead]

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We have a non-vaxxer in our workgroup. Says he ain't doing it and it's no one's business but his own. Fair enough. However they should save critical care in hospitals for people who need it before those who need it because they are not vaccinated. It would be nice if we could do this, just saying.


It is odd, we put all sorts of stuff in our bodies that we don't have a clue of. Athletes put in stuff to get stronger (not always legal stuff either). At work once we had a bbq. There were brat buns left over that sat on the shelf for over 6 months that still had no mold and were perfect to eat after 6 months. You are starting to see more and more mechanics wearing gloves during repairs. It's not just to keep their hands clean anymore but to keep chemicals from absorbing into skin tissue. Lately there has been press on sunscreen causing it's own cancer.....the list goes on.

I think getting a shot is the least of our worries.

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While cases are up in florida, they still only rank 26th in deaths per million.

Like that's good news

Deaths per Million yep F it you die look at the odds per Million

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[slimslob]

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We have a non-vaxxer in our workgroup. Says he ain't doing it and it's no one's business but his own. Fair enough. However they should save critical care in hospitals for people who need it before those who need it because they are not vaccinated. It would be nice if we could do this, just saying.

"A recent study released by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says the delta infection has similarly high viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people." "The CDC's research suggesting that vaccinated people infected with delta can also easily transmit the virus" Breakthrough COVID cases among the fully vaccinated are real. Here's what's happening - CNETFact check: N95 filters are not too large to stop COVID-19 particles

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"A recent study released by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says the delta infection has similarly high viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people." "The CDC's research suggesting that vaccinated people infected with delta can also easily transmit the virus" Breakthrough COVID cases among the fully vaccinated are real. Here's what's happening - CNET

Since being vaccinated does not keep you from transmitting the virus to others, maybe you should rethink denying treatment to those who are not vaccinated.

Do you know what the one place is, other than a treatment facility, that you are most likely to encounter individuals who have the virus? ANSWER, a virus testing station, especially those that require you to get out of your vehicle and walk in. By particles in the following they mean the actual virus itself. "Particles from an infected person can move throughout an entire room or indoor space. The particles can also linger in the air after a person has left the room – they can remain airborne for hours in some cases." And even a quality N95 mask will not stop airborne viruses. The N95 will stop 95% of all particles 0.3 microns in diameter. The SARS-CoV-2 virus has an average diameter as small as 0.125 microns and could be as small as 0.06 microns. "So, N95 masks block few, if any, virions (virus particles).” The masks will however block moisture droplet from a cough, sneeze or loud talking or singing. Fact check: N95 filters are not too large to stop COVID-19 particles

Please STOP with the Anti Mask BS
Masks particularly N95 Work that why medical staff uses them.

Masks slow the spread period. Stop with the half truths half facts. Follow the CDC guildlines.
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Our ruling: False
We rate this claim FALSE because it is not supported by our research. The COVID-19 virus itself is indeed smaller than the N95 filter size, but the virus always travels attached to larger particles that are consistently snared by the filter. And even if the particles were smaller than the N95 filter size, the erratic motion of particles that size and the electrostatic attraction generated by the mask means they would be consistently caught as well.

[Copier Addict]

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"A recent study released by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says the delta infection has similarly high viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people." "The CDC's research suggesting that vaccinated people infected with delta can also easily transmit the virus" Breakthrough COVID cases among the fully vaccinated are real. Here's what's happening - CNETFact check: N95 filters are not too large to stop COVID-19 particles

Yes Slim, you can still become infected by covid after being vaccinated. NOBODY HAS INDICATED OTHERWISE!!!!
So what exactly is your point other than pushing your own agenda??
The biggest advantage to getting vaccinated is the FACT that you have a much reduced chance of getting hospitalized or dying. If you don't mind being hospitalized or dying, by all means, don't get vaccinated. Prove how " free" you are. Haha

[SalesServiceGuy]

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No opinion on China then, thought as much.

I have plenty of opinions on China. Most of them disapprove of the Chinese Communist Party and how it manages the country and it's internal/ external affairs.

China has wrongly imprisoned two Canadian citizens for over two years as political prisoners related to Huawei.

China does create some amazing technology and manufacturers most of the equipment that I have earned an income from for most of my life.

[SalesServiceGuy]

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We have a non-vaxxer in our workgroup. Says he ain't doing it and it's no one's business but his own. Fair enough. However they should save critical care in hospitals for people who need it before those who need it because they are not vaccinated. It would be nice if we could do this, just saying.


It is odd, we put all sorts of stuff in our bodies that we don't have a clue of. Athletes put in stuff to get stronger (not always legal stuff either). At work once we had a bbq. There were brat buns left over that sat on the shelf for over 6 months that still had no mold and were perfect to eat after 6 months. You are starting to see more and more mechanics wearing gloves during repairs. It's not just to keep their hands clean anymore but to keep chemicals from absorbing into skin tissue. Lately there has been press on sunscreen causing it's own cancer.....the list goes on.

I think getting a shot is the least of our worries.

COVID-19D+ is going to get much worse amongst the unvaccinated as soon as next month.

The anti-vaxxer in your workgroup has to be re-assigned to work from home and excluded from job tasks that interact with your business customers.

Clearly, the tolerance for the unvaccinated in the workplace is rapidly declining.

[tonerhead]

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"A recent study released by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says the delta infection has similarly high viral loads in vaccinated and unvaccinated people." "The CDC's research suggesting that vaccinated people infected with delta can also easily transmit the virus" Breakthrough COVID cases among the fully vaccinated are real. Here's what's happening - CNET

Since being vaccinated does not keep you from transmitting the virus to others, maybe you should rethink denying treatment to those who are not vaccinated.

Really I don't see this as a rebuttal. I will not deny that this is true. However...........it is also true that those who are vaccinated have a much much MUCH lower incidence of being hospitalized or placed in intensive care than those who are not. It is also very true that those who are vaccinated have a much lower chance of contracting the virus. So #1 (I'm just saying again) what gives an unvaccinated person the right to take an intensive care bed away from someone who is vaccinated? If I needed intensive care in Florida right now, say for a heart attack, there aren't any beds, they are primarily filled with unvaccinated covid individuals. #2 probably the only reason the vaccines are not FDA approved is there are no long term studies done. Everyone is so damn lawsuit happy here that the FDA and pharma have to list all of the possible side affects to avoid future potential lawsuits. #3 politicians and media just love this $hit. It is one thing that gets their names/brands out in front of millions. There is a whole lot of counter-culture that just loves promoting both sides of the equation just to get their 5 minutes of fame in the public eye.

I will close my soapbox speech with a story. I am probably one of the older techs on this forum. This is a personal story from my childhood when I was 6 or 7. I had dislocated my shoulder, the pain and swelling was awful. The doctor prescribed a new drug on the market that could only be obtained by a prescription. My mom was hesitant as the only pain reliever she knew was aspirin or a narcotic. We got this new drug and it worked well, despite my mom's worries. Guess what it was?

Ibuprophen aka advil. Sometimes you just have to trust science and doctors and take a leap of faith. I was not crazy about getting the shot either, I took a leap of faith like my mom did for me.

One thing we all agree on is we want Covid to stop. There are some who are trying to stop it, the others want it to stop but aren't doing anything to try to stop it including masks and shots. I don't think there is anyone out there except for people trying to capitalize on covid who want it to keep going. Am I right?