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  • tonerhead
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    500+ Posts
    • Sep 2009
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    #9406
    Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

    You know I normally don't get in the way of political volleyball games but this one really gets my goat going. People have rights to decide for themselves. This is the argument that I have heard from those not wanting the vaccine. People have the right to decide whether they should have to wear masks or not, this is the argument for not wearing a mask. The government better not interfere with our rights to do whatever we want to.

    Well we have the right to do whatever we want as long as it does not interfere with other people's rights.

    We have the right to drive 100 mph in a school zone. Wait, that might interfere with a child's right to live.... so there is a law.

    We have the right to drive without seatbelts. Wait. that might interfere with other people's rights to keep lower insurance premiums and it saves lives.....so there is a law

    We have the right to keep assult weapons. Wait. Assult weapons in the hands of crazies kill alot of people.....so there may be restrictions...laws may be coming

    Laws are there to primarily protect the rights of others.

    By not getting your vacination, not wearing a mask, you are not only hurting yourself, but are violating the rights of several school age children who are unprotected. You may as well drive your car 100mph through a school zone or a nursing home.

    I hope Biden and businesses mandate vacinations. We all want this virus crap done and done. It will never be over if all of us don't do our part. We just about had it licked but not everyone did their part and it is starting to come back with a vengeance. I for one, think having shortages, higher prices, possibility of re-infection is violating my rights and the rights of the majority of the US..... so let it be law.

    Let's not forget the hospital beds being taken up that could have been avoided. With a shortage of hospital beds, that has got to be violating the rights of those badly injured that would also need them.

    Go ahead and crucify me in this thread, that is your RIGHT, it won't hurt me. I will agree it is your RIGHT to do so.
    I've proved mathematics wrong. 1 + 1 doesn't always equal 2.........


    Especially when it comes to sex

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    • SalesServiceGuy
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      5,000+ Posts
      • Dec 2009
      • 8104

      #9407
      Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
      I ask that you stop spreading falsehoods and misinformation. The Taliban are beating women with whips and torturing those that fall out of line with their extreme Islamic teachings. The leadership is made up of former Gitmo prisoners that were known terrorists.


      PS - What is it with your soft spot for dictators and terrorists - Castro & Taliban?
      ... the Taliban are holding to their deal and acting responsibly with the USA to help evacuate US citizens after Aug 31. Several departed today via Kabul Airport.

      US citizens who refuse to get vaccinated are acting irresponsible.

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      • slimslob
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        25,000+ Posts
        • May 2013
        • 36871

        #9408
        Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

        Originally posted by tonerhead
        You know I normally don't get in the way of political volleyball games but this one really gets my goat going. People have rights to decide for themselves. This is the argument that I have heard from those not wanting the vaccine. People have the right to decide whether they should have to wear masks or not, this is the argument for not wearing a mask. The government better not interfere with our rights to do whatever we want to.

        Well we have the right to do whatever we want as long as it does not interfere with other people's rights.

        We have the right to drive 100 mph in a school zone. Wait, that might interfere with a child's right to live.... so there is a law.

        We have the right to drive without seatbelts. Wait. that might interfere with other people's rights to keep lower insurance premiums and it saves lives.....so there is a law

        We have the right to keep assult weapons. Wait. Assult weapons in the hands of crazies kill alot of people.....so there may be restrictions...laws may be coming

        Laws are there to primarily protect the rights of others.

        By not getting your vacination, not wearing a mask, you are not only hurting yourself, but are violating the rights of several school age children who are unprotected. You may as well drive your car 100mph through a school zone or a nursing home.

        I hope Biden and businesses mandate vacinations. We all want this virus crap done and done. It will never be over if all of us don't do our part. We just about had it licked but not everyone did their part and it is starting to come back with a vengeance. I for one, think having shortages, higher prices, possibility of re-infection is violating my rights and the rights of the majority of the US..... so let it be law.

        Let's not forget the hospital beds being taken up that could have been avoided. With a shortage of hospital beds, that has got to be violating the rights of those badly injured that would also need them.

        Go ahead and crucify me in this thread, that is your RIGHT, it won't hurt me. I will agree it is your RIGHT to do so.
        Martin Luther King wrote from a Birmingham jail "one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws." MLK'''s "Letter From a Birmingham Jail" and other great open letters.

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        • BillyCarpenter
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          • Aug 2020
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          #9409
          Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

          Biden - Promise made, promise broken.



          Biden in December 2020: 'I Don't Think' COVID Vaccinations 'Should Be Mandatory'

          Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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          • ZOOTECH
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            • Jul 2007
            • 3374

            #9410
            Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
            Biden - Promise made, promise broken.



            Biden in December 2020: 'I Don't Think' COVID Vaccinations 'Should Be Mandatory'
            How is that quote a promise?
            "You can't trust your eyes, if your mind is out of focus" --

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            • BillyCarpenter
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              #9411
              Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

              Originally posted by ZOOTECH
              How is that quote a promise?
              Fair enough. I suppose it would be more accurate to say that you shouldn't believe anything Biden says.
              Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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              • bsm2
                IT Manager

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                • Feb 2008
                • 29431

                #9412
                Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                Biden - Promise made, promise broken.



                Biden in December 2020: 'I Don't Think' COVID Vaccinations 'Should Be Mandatory'

                No worries tell your boss NO Billy

                Aren't YOU already Vaccinated ?????

                Stop your WHINING

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                • BillyCarpenter
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                  #9413
                  Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                  Originally posted by tonerhead
                  You know I normally don't get in the way of political volleyball games but this one really gets my goat going. People have rights to decide for themselves. This is the argument that I have heard from those not wanting the vaccine. People have the right to decide whether they should have to wear masks or not, this is the argument for not wearing a mask. The government better not interfere with our rights to do whatever we want to.

                  Well we have the right to do whatever we want as long as it does not interfere with other people's rights.

                  We have the right to drive 100 mph in a school zone. Wait, that might interfere with a child's right to live.... so there is a law.

                  We have the right to drive without seatbelts. Wait. that might interfere with other people's rights to keep lower insurance premiums and it saves lives.....so there is a law

                  We have the right to keep assult weapons. Wait. Assult weapons in the hands of crazies kill alot of people.....so there may be restrictions...laws may be coming

                  Laws are there to primarily protect the rights of others.

                  By not getting your vacination, not wearing a mask, you are not only hurting yourself, but are violating the rights of several school age children who are unprotected. You may as well drive your car 100mph through a school zone or a nursing home.

                  I hope Biden and businesses mandate vacinations. We all want this virus crap done and done. It will never be over if all of us don't do our part. We just about had it licked but not everyone did their part and it is starting to come back with a vengeance. I for one, think having shortages, higher prices, possibility of re-infection is violating my rights and the rights of the majority of the US..... so let it be law.

                  Let's not forget the hospital beds being taken up that could have been avoided. With a shortage of hospital beds, that has got to be violating the rights of those badly injured that would also need them.

                  Go ahead and crucify me in this thread, that is your RIGHT, it won't hurt me. I will agree it is your RIGHT to do so.

                  IMHO, he is right. Vaccine mandates have been heard in the past by the Supreme Court and have been allowed to stand in the interest of public health.
                  Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                  • tonerhead
                    Senior Tech

                    500+ Posts
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 582

                    #9414
                    Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                    Denmark Lifts All Coronavirus Restrictions Except Entry Rules


                    Comments? Laws are made to protect. MLK is right that unjust laws should be challenged. However mandating vacinations, masks, and curfews are about public safety, not unjust laws of discrimination. You say Biden is waffelling, he first came out saying not mandatory, he was probably thinking most people would use common sense so a mandation would not be necessary. Since people are not complying he is looking out for the majority and working to make it mandatory.

                    That's part of the trouble with politicians and public opinion. Politicians are not allowed to change their views or they are viewed as waffles. Politicians are not allowed to contradict their party or they are traitors to their party and removed from party positions by the party.

                    Screw it all. American's only want to look out for themselves, not their fellow citizens. This goes both sides of the issues. The media wants to provoke both sides so it can make more money, congrats they have succeeded.

                    Don't tell me to leave America, because it's not that I don't want to, I am stuck here with the rest of you. America has really lost it's moral compass. It's all about money or 5 minutes of fame. Definitely not the America I grew up in.
                    I've proved mathematics wrong. 1 + 1 doesn't always equal 2.........


                    Especially when it comes to sex

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                    • bsm2
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                      • Feb 2008
                      • 29431

                      #9415
                      Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                      Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                      IMHO, he is right. Vaccine mandates have been heard in the past by the Supreme Court and have been allowed to stand in the interest of public health.

                      So ALL that Whining for NOTHING!!!!!!!

                      Thank You President BIDEN

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                      • BillyCarpenter
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                        #9416
                        Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                        Originally posted by bsm2
                        So ALL that Whining for NOTHING!!!!!!!

                        Thank You President BIDEN


                        I don't necessarily agree with the mandates, I was only speaking to the constitutionality of it. That's above your paygrade, sport.
                        Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                        • Phil B.
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                          • Jul 2016
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                          #9417
                          Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                          I don't necessarily agree with the mandates, I was only speaking to the constitutionality of it. That's above your paygrade, sport.
                          Mandates on the shot are IF'Y per each state.
                          Since this issue is not discussed in the Constitution.

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                          • bsm2
                            IT Manager

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                            • Feb 2008
                            • 29431

                            #9418
                            Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                            I don't necessarily agree with the mandates, I was only speaking to the constitutionality of it. That's above your paygrade, sport.

                            Still Whining little boy Back to School!!!!

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                            • bsm2
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                              • Feb 2008
                              • 29431

                              #9419
                              Re: Latest on the Corona Virus



                              Government Can Require People To Be Healthy, But Cannot Require People To Get Sick

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                              • bsm2
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                                • Feb 2008
                                • 29431

                                #9420
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