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  • SalesServiceGuy
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    #10591
    Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

    Originally posted by slimslob
    Wrong again, President supported the use of Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin. It was you idiot liberals who were negating just about everything that President Trump suggested who caused hundreds of thousand too die.

    ... and where did that get the ex President? Near death with a serious COVID-19 infection. If he did not have top level health care available to him, he could have died.

    WASHINGTON — President Donald J. Trump was sicker with Covid-19 in October than publicly acknowledged at the time, with extremely depressed blood oxygen levels at one point and a lung problem associated with pneumonia caused by the coronavirus, according to four people familiar with his condition.

    His prognosis became so worrisome before he was taken to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center that officials believed he would need to be put on a ventilator, two of the people familiar with his condition said.

    The people familiar with Mr. Trump’s health said he was found to have lung infiltrates, which occur when the lungs are inflamed and contain substances such as fluid or bacteria. Their presence, especially when a patient is exhibiting other symptoms, can be a sign of an acute case of the disease. They can be easily spotted on an X-ray or scan, when parts of the lungs appear opaque, or white.

    Mr. Trump’s blood oxygen level alone was cause for extreme concern, dipping into the 80s, according to the people familiar with his evaluation. The disease is considered severe when the blood oxygen level falls to the low 90s.

    It has been previously reported that Mr. Trump had trouble breathing and a fever on Oct. 2, the day he was taken to the hospital, and the types of treatment he received indicated that his condition was serious. But the new details about his condition and about the effort inside the White House to get him special access to an unapproved drug to fight the virus help to flesh out one of the most dire episodes of Mr. Trump’s presidency.

    The new revelations about Mr. Trump’s struggle with the virus also underscore the limited and sometimes misleading nature of the information disclosed at the time about his condition.

    The former president resisted being taken from the White House to Walter Reed, relenting when aides told him that he could walk out on his own, or risk waiting until the U.S. Secret Service was forced to carry him out if he got sicker, two people familiar with the events said.

    While Mr. Trump was hospitalized at Walter Reed, his medical team sought to downplay the severity of the situation, saying that he was on an upswing. At 74 and overweight, he was at risk for severe disease, and was prescribed an aggressive course of treatments. He left the hospital after three days in which he at one point staged a brief ride in his armored sport-utility vehicle to wave at the crowd of supporters outside the building.

    There are still unanswered questions about whether Mr. Trump was already sick with Covid-19 when he participated in a presidential debate on Sept. 29, just two days before the public announcement that he had been diagnosed with the disease and three days before his deteriorating condition forced him to go to Walter Reed.

    Mr. Trump had trouble breathing at the White House. He was twice given oxygen before being taken to Walter Reed, as Dr. Conley acknowledged after it was reported by The New York Times.

    While still at the White House, Mr. Trump received a drug developed by the biotechnology firm Regeneron Pharmaceuticals. The antibody cocktail — not widely available at the time — helps people infected with the virus fight it off.

    After Mr. Trump was hospitalized, he began a regimen for a steroid, dexamethasone, which is usually recommended only for Covid-19 patients who have severe or critical forms of the disease, often those who need mechanical ventilation or supplemental oxygen.

    And he received a five-day course of the antiviral drug remdesivir. Medical experts at the time believed that his medication course was a clear signal of significant issues related to his lungs.

    Only in the days following the application’s approval did White House officials acknowledge that the doses were for Mr. Trump and the first lady, Melania Trump, who also tested positive for the coronavirus but turned down the drug, which is infused intravenously for about an hour. The person close to the former president also denied that Mrs. Trump had turned down the drug.


    Around that time, as other people close to Mr. Trump started getting sick, his son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, offered to facilitate getting the Regeneron treatment for them, two people with knowledge of the discussions said. An aide to Mr. Kushner disputed that he had made such an offer at that time.

    In the weeks after his hospitalization, Mr. Trump was convinced that the Regeneron treatment had saved his life, telling aides, “I’m proof it works.”



    Why do you continue to push old myths?
    Last edited by SalesServiceGuy; 11-20-2021, 12:46 AM.

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    • slimslob
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      #10592
      Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

      Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
      ... constantly repeating politically false information about COVID drugs that are not approved for use by the FDA or the CDC is not going to make them any more effective. It just puts people in harms way from potentially dangerous side effects.

      You sound like an old dog with a bone.
      Actually the link I posted is to the US National Library of Medicine which, like the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) Which Fauci has been the Director of since 1984, is a Department of the National Institute of Health. It is those who are blocking the full publication and dissemination of such information who are putting people in harms way.

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      • SalesServiceGuy
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        #10593
        Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

        Originally posted by slimslob
        Actually the link I posted is to the US National Library of Medicine which, like the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) Which Fauci has been the Director of since 1984, is a Department of the National Institute of Health. It is those who are blocking the full publication and dissemination of such information who are putting people in harms way.
        ... these drugs were developed long ago to treat other infections. Nothing to do with COVID. You are pushing quack medical cures.

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        • slimslob
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          Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

          None of the vaccines are 100% safe like the liberal media keeps telling everyone. "The official European Union database of suspected drug reaction website is now reporting 30,551 fatalities and 1,163,356 from COVID vaccines Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson, and AztraZeneca through November 13, 2021 based on the data submitted to its system."

          European Medicines Agency Data Shows 1,163,356 Adverse Drug Reactions and 30,551 Fatalities by Covid Vaccinations

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          • slimslob
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            Any yet another cardiac death of a teenager after being vaccinated.

            17-Year-Old Girl Dies Of Cardiac Arrest Weeks After Receiving Pfizer Covid Vaccine

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            • slimslob
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              Experts Befuddled By 'Mysterious' Fact That Africa Is Less Than 6% Vaccinated But Has Avoided Covid Disaster — Unlike Europe and The Us

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              • BillyCarpenter
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                #10597
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                It's clear from the evidence in Florida and Africa that democrats are responsible for prolonging covid and costing lives in the process.
                Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                • Copier Addict
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                  Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                  Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                  It's clear from the evidence in Florida and Africa that democrats are responsible for prolonging covid and costing lives in the process.
                  Oh, is that what's clear? Lol
                  What's clear is that if you live in a very poor country, there are few if any tourists coming in with the virus and are few if any people leaving to visit other countries where there is virus.

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                  • Copier Addict
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                    #10599
                    Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                    Originally posted by slimslob
                    None of the vaccines are 100% safe like the liberal media keeps telling everyone. "The official European Union database of suspected drug reaction website is now reporting 30,551 fatalities and 1,163,356 from COVID vaccines Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson, and AztraZeneca through November 13, 2021 based on the data submitted to its system."

                    European Medicines Agency Data Shows 1,163,356 Adverse Drug Reactions and 30,551 Fatalities by Covid Vaccinations
                    Okay Slim, just how out of touch are you? Nobody, I repeat nobody, has ever stated that the vaccine is without side effects. Go spread your BS elsewhere.

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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      Originally posted by copier addict
                      Oh, is that's what's clear? Lol
                      What's clear is that if you live in a very poor country, there are few if any tourists coming in with the virus and are few if any people leaving to visit other countries where there is virus.

                      You're so desperate to make a point that you don't stop and think. Historically Africa has been ground zero for infectious disease and virus. Somehow all that shit you mentioned never made a difference. But now that the data doesn't support your bullshit, you want us to believe it's because Africa has a lack of tourists. Son, log off for the night. It'll do you some good.
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                      • Copier Addict
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                        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                        You're so desperate to make a point that you don't stop and think. Historically Africa has been ground zero for infectious disease and virus. Somehow all that shit you mentioned never made a difference. But now that the data doesn't support your bullshit, you want us to believe it's because Africa has a lack of tourists. Son, log off for the night. It'll do you some good.
                        Okay, so now just because there are viruses that originate in Africa, even though we ALL know this one did not, somehow it means covid will somehow spontaneously appear. You are ridiculous

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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          Originally posted by copier addict
                          Okay, so now just because there are viruses that originate in Africa, even though we ALL know this one did not, somehow it means covid will somehow spontaneously appear. You are ridiculous

                          Can someone explain to me what copier trans-addict is trying to say? I think he's losing it.
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                          • Copier Addict
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                            Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                            Can someone explain to me what copier trans-addict is trying to say? I think he's losing it.
                            You are SO desperate to make Florida a shining example of how to handle covid, even though your whole spiel is based on a lie, that you have lost all perspective

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                            • BillyCarpenter
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                              Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                              Originally posted by copier addict
                              You are SO desperate to make Florida a shining example of how to handle covid, even though your whole spiel is based on a lie, that you have lost all perspective

                              Science doesn't lie, copier (trans)addict. Science says that Florida is number 1 in fewest covid cases. Wrap that around your dildo and shove up your rectum. lol
                              Adversity temporarily visits a strong man but stays with the weak for a lifetime.

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                              • Copier Addict
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                                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                                Science doesn't lie, copier (trans)addict. Science says that Florida is number 1 in fewest covid cases. Wrap that around your dildo and shove up your rectum. lol
                                Do you deny that Florida was the worst in the country for a long time? Just because they may be in first at the moment doesn't make them exceptional.

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