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  • slimslob
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    #3541
    Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

    Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
    Your phone can send you an alert if you were near someone who has coronavirus


    As new coronavirus cases explode nationwide, health officials are turning to cell phones to help slow the spread of infections.

    Thanks to technology available on Apple and Google phones, you can now get pop-up notifications in some states if you were close to someone who later tested positive for Covid-19. The alerts come via state health department apps that use Bluetooth technology to detect when you (or more precisely, your phone) has been in close contact with an infected person's phone.

    While these apps can't keep you safe -- they only let you know after you've been exposed -- they could prevent others from getting infected if you take precautions, such as self-quarantining, after receiving an alert.

    Millions of people are signing up, although these apps aren't yet available in many states. Health officials believe the alerts could be especially helpful in cases where an infected person has been in contact with strangers -- for example in a bus, train or checkout line -- who wouldn't otherwise know they were exposed.

    ... this alert system has been available for free Canada wide for several months. I have the app installed on my Android phone and check it every day.
    It is available free every where and is totally useless. It has no way of knowing who has the virus but has not yet tested positive. It also is totally unable to actually track the location of an individually who has tested positive nut is neither hospitalized nor quarantining at a fixed location and does not wish to be tracked.

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    • SalesServiceGuy
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      #3542
      Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

      Originally posted by slimslob
      It is available free every where and is totally useless. It has no way of knowing who has the virus but has not yet tested positive. It also is totally unable to actually track the location of an individually who has tested positive nut is neither hospitalized nor quarantining at a fixed location and does not wish to be tracked.
      .. most people carry their cellphones wherever they go. The app, via Bluetooth, constantly pings those other cellphones around it. Via geo-tracking, the app can determine if you have been in close proximity to a person or group of people who are at risk of infection.

      ... maybe you are talking about some other form of technology. The one used in Canada works quite well. The app does not tell you if you have COVID-19 only that you have come in close proximity to someone that has. If the app warns you, it is your civic duty to get a COVID-19 test.

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      • BillyCarpenter
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        #3543
        Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

        Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
        .. most people carry their cellphones wherever they go. The app, via Bluetooth, constantly pings those other cellphones around it. Via geo-tracking, the app can determine if you have been in close proximity to a person or group of people who are at risk of infection.

        ... maybe you are talking about some other form of technology. The one used in Canada works quite well. The app does not tell you if you have COVID-19 only that you have come in close proximity to someone that has. If the app warns you, it is your civic duty to get a COVID-19 test.
        Can this technology do the same for folks with a criminal record? I'd like to know when to walk to the other side of the street when I'm approaching a thug.
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        • SalesServiceGuy
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          #3544
          Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

          Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
          Can this technology do the same for folks with a criminal record? I'd like to know when to walk to the other side of the street when I'm approaching a thug.
          ... probably but super unlikely. A criminal would only have to turn off the bluetooth feature on his phone.

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          • BillyCarpenter
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            #3545
            Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

            Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
            ... probably but super unlikely. A criminal would only have to turn off the bluetooth feature on his phone.
            Good point. But if liberals are gonna keep releasing these criminals into society, we need some kind of technology to track them. Can we put a chip in 'em?
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            • slimslob
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              #3546
              Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

              Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
              .. most people carry their cellphones wherever they go. The app, via Bluetooth, constantly pings those other cellphones around it. Via geo-tracking, the app can determine if you have been in close proximity to a person or group of people who are at risk of infection.

              ... maybe you are talking about some other form of technology. The one used in Canada works quite well. The app does not tell you if you have COVID-19 only that you have come in close proximity to someone that has. If the app warns you, it is your civic duty to get a COVID-19 test.
              It still depends on the infected person having a device, the device having the app installed and the app somehow knowing that the individual is infected. Too many variables to allow for an accurate notification.

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              • slimslob
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                #3547
                Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                ... probably but super unlikely. A criminal would only have to turn off the bluetooth feature on his phone.
                Many people, myself included, keep Bluetooth turned off if they not need to connect to a headset on vehicle. Extends battery life.

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                • BillyCarpenter
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                  #3548
                  Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                  Originally posted by slimslob
                  It still depends on the infected person having a device, the device having the app installed and the app somehow knowing that the individual is infected. Too many variables to allow for an accurate notification.
                  You're talking in logical terms. You have to understand the mind of a liberal. You see...they need to be the smartest person in the room at all times and they're gonna do stuff that make them appear to care more than anyone and then they can criticize those who don't follow suit.
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                  • SalesServiceGuy
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                    #3549
                    Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                    Originally posted by slimslob
                    It still depends on the infected person having a device, the device having the app installed and the app somehow knowing that the individual is infected. Too many variables to allow for an accurate notification.
                    ... the app does not know that the owner of the cell phone is infected. The app only knows that this cellphone was in close proximity to someone else who was in an area known to have recent COVID-19 infections (like a Trump rally). The app then suggests that the owner of the phone should go in for testing.

                    ... you seem to imply that unless this app is perfect in every situation, it is useless.

                    ... unless you have a better solution, something is better than nothing.

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                    • BillyCarpenter
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                      Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                      Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
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                      ... unless you have a better solution, something is better than nothing.

                      That's simply not true. Some things give folks a false sense of security and that's what sometimes gets them in trouble. I'd say masks may be a prime example of that.
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                      • SalesServiceGuy
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                        #3551
                        Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                        Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                        That's simply not true. Some things give folks a false sense of security and that's what sometimes gets them in trouble. I'd say masks may be a prime example of that.
                        ... so you propose do nothing, run around in denial because COVID-19 is fake news, not care about the people around you, ignore 268,000 COVID-19 deaths in the USA in less than 10 months with over 8M infections in the USA, spiking infection rates, entire state hospital systems so overwhelmed that they cannot accept any more patients, refrigerated trucks in hospital parking lots trying to handle the overflow of dead bodies, people looking at empty chairs where their loved one use to sit weeks ago before being taken by COVID-19.

                        ... it is all good, no need to do anything special because somehow it impairs your ability to walk around and do whatever you feel like whenever you feel like doing it. f**k everybody else.

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                        • BillyCarpenter
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                          #3552
                          Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                          Originally posted by SalesServiceGuy
                          ... so you propose do nothing, run around in denial because COVID-19 is fake news, not care about the people around you, ignore 268,000 COVID-19 deaths in the USA in less than 10 months with over 8M infections in the USA, spiking infection rates, entire state hospital systems so overwhelmed that they cannot accept any more patients, refrigerated trucks in hospital parking lots trying to handle the overflow of dead bodies, people looking at empty chairs where their loved one use to sit weeks ago before being taken by COVID-19.

                          ... it is all good, no need to do anything special because somehow it impairs your ability to walk around and do whatever you feel like whenever you feel like doing it. f**k everybody else.
                          That's a classic strawman. I'm not proposing doing nothing. What I'm suggesting is that all that stuff you're doing may being doing more harm than good. Masks "may" have given folks a false sense of security and made them think they don't have to social distance. See BLM protests for example. And I see it in my every day life. Gotta deal with reality....not what you want. Got it?
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                          • bsm2
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                            #3553
                            Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                            Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                            That's a classic strawman. I'm not proposing doing nothing. What I'm suggesting is that all that stuff you're doing may being doing more harm than good. Masks "may" have given folks a false sense of security and made them think they don't have to social distance. See BLM protests for example. And I see it in my every day life. Gotta deal with reality....not what you want. Got it?
                            The problem is people Not wearing Masks

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                            • BillyCarpenter
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                              #3554
                              Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                              Originally posted by bsm2
                              The problem is people Not wearing Masks


                              An Oregon county has said non-white people don't need to wear coronavirus face masks in public if they have 'concerns about racial profiling and harassment', as racial tensions mount across America following the Memorial Day 'murder' of black man George Floyd at the hands of a white cop.
                              Health officials in Lincoln County, Oregon, announced Tuesday that people of color are exempt from the order issued last week that requires all residents to wear a face covering if they come within six feet of someone who does not live in their household.
                              'People of color who have heightened concerns about racial profiling and harassment due to wearing face coverings in public' are exempt, officials said.
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                              • SalesServiceGuy
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                                #3555
                                Re: Latest on the Corona Virus

                                Originally posted by BillyCarpenter
                                An Oregon county has said non-white people don't need to wear coronavirus face masks in public if they have 'concerns about racial profiling and harassment', as racial tensions mount across America following the Memorial Day 'murder' of black man George Floyd at the hands of a white cop.
                                Health officials in Lincoln County, Oregon, announced Tuesday that people of color are exempt from the order issued last week that requires all residents to wear a face covering if they come within six feet of someone who does not live in their household.
                                'People of color who have heightened concerns about racial profiling and harassment due to wearing face coverings in public' are exempt, officials said.
                                ... I doubt you have ever experienced racial profiling nor was ever fearful of its consequences.

                                ... Since the above statement was made in late May of this year, deaths and infections from COVID-19 have skyrocketed in the USA to dizzying levels. Medical science has proven that the simple act of wearing a face covering could have prevented so much suffering.

                                In the last two weeks the number of people reported infected by COVID-19 in Lincoln county has doubled from the past two weeks.

                                Lincoln County COVID-19 Dashboard | Lincoln County Oregon

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